Woman’s Will, Prepared by Church to Pay Itself and Exclude Her Kids, is Invalid

[phands]

The world over, xtianity is vile....

A deceased woman’s last-minute will was ruled invalid after it was discovered that it was created by her church in an effort to secure her property for itself at the expense of her adopted children.

Pepe Pasetaria Matthes, a New Zealander who died last year, supposedly left $180,000 and a home in South Auckland to the Seventh-day Adventist Church, while her adopted children received nothing. Making matters more complicated, another $300,000 was taken from her account just weeks before her death.


A judge has now nullified the document.


A makeshift will prepared for an Auckland woman by the Seventh-Day Adventist Church has been rejected by a High Court judge.


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Under the Wills Act 2007 the High Court could declare a [Personal Profile Document] valid if it showed “the deceased person’s testamentary intentions”, but in declining to validate it, Justice Davidson noted the lapse of time between its signing and her death, and her lack of follow up.


“That leaves me with very real doubt that the PPD remained her testamentary intent.


“I am not at all satisfied that it did, indeed to the contrary.”

http://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/...o-pay-itself-and-exclude-her-kids-is-invalid/

 

[Angry Floof]

Good. I hope they're investigating the missing money.

 

[atrib]

Christians are some of the most dishonest people I have had to deal with in my life. The more their alleged piety, they more crooked they usually are.

I bought my first house 21 years ago, and I did a lot of research before taking the plunge. Most people use mortgage brokers to find them good lending terms when they are looking for a home because brokers have access to rates and lenders most regular people do not have. What most people don't know is that many or most mortgage brokers make a lot of money by selling people loans at markups. For example, if a person would normally qualify for a loan at 5% based on their credit and income, the broker might sell them a loan at a higher rate, anywhere from half a point to 5 points higher (or more), and get paid by the lending institution for selling the marked up loan at a rate significantly higher than the market rate. Any payments received by the broker from the lending institution have to be reported on the closing documents by law, and this is named the "Yield Spread Premium", YSP, which is the premium the broker makes for marking up the yield/interest on the loan.

Being a savvy buyer, I negotiated a contract with a local broker to act solely in my best interests in acquiring a loan for me for which he would get paid a certain fixed fee (in this case, 1% of the sale price). He would sell me a loan at the market rate and not mark up the loan or get compensated by the lender, and would get paid by me for his services. I drafted up a contract and got him to sign it. So far, so good. The first time I saw the closing documents was in my realtors office at the time of closing; I had asked for the documents to be sent to me ahead of time for review but my broker claimed he had a family emergency and only delivered the papers at the last minute. Lo and behold, the closing document stated that my broker had received a 1% commission (YSP) from the lender in addition to the 1% he was making from me. This fucker had a signed contract with me stipulating the terms of his services, and he still tried to cheat me out of my hard earned money. I postponed the closing, went by my broker's office and threatened to sue him for breach of contract. He claimed he was under a lot of pressure, family financial crisis, blah, blah, blah, and ultimately consented to rewriting the loan at the agreed terms. The rates had not gone up in the 2 weeks since I had originally locked the loan, so I didn't actually lose any money.

Ironically, this scumbag kept telling me that he was a good man, a pastor at his church, and a devout Christian, all while trying to fuck me over. And he wasn't just greedy, he was also stupid, as he had signed a contract with me detailing the terms of our arrangement. If someone wants your business and keeps telling you he is a good Christian, stay the fuck away. I had to learn my lesson the hard way.

 

[Rhea]

Wow. Liar and fraud!

 

[atrib]

Wow. Liar and fraud!

Yes. If I had not been an educated buyer, the broker would have made an extra $1,900 in commission, and I would have had to pay an extra $27,000 in interest charges over the life of the loan because he had marked up the lending rate. South Carolina law allows victims of mortgage lending fraud to sue their scammers to recover the full value of the damages, up to 300% extra, and legal costs. With a signed contract in place, he had exposed himself to over $100,000 of liability by pulling this stunt. Liar and a fraud, and also very, very stupid.

I am not trying to imply that all Christians are frauds, just that I tend to be wary of Christians who are trying to sell me something while professing an abundance of faith.

 

[BH]

I heard of a church in Tyler TX that got ostracized from the other churches in town because its elders did the right thing and stood up to a crooked rich businessman. A man who owned a company went to that church and many men who who went to that same church worked for him. One of the employees asked for a promotion and the owner said if you do x y and z you would get it. Some of the men who went to church with both heard the question and the promise made and were witnesses. The man did what was asked of him within the time frame. The owner, for whatever reason, lied and gave the job to someone else. The man shafted did like the Bible said and took his complaint to the church and the elders of the church looked into it. The two other men that worked there that happened to witness the owner make the promise confirmed what the wronged man told them. The elders talked to the man and told him to make things right and keep his word. The owner told them to basically fuck off, it was his business and he'd do what he wanted. The elders told him they would start church discipline and withdrawal of fellowship if he did not comply. He left for another church and they called him out by name after the second admonition to repent, disfellowshipped him in front of the whole church and told why. That cheat ran off to another church and when the leaders both spiritual and lay of most other churches in town found out what that church did they all turned against it and started accuing it of all kinds of doctrinal errors that before it had never been accused of. What it was is the businessmen that went to church just for show and social reasons did not want a church to expose them in their wrongdoings and couldn't let an example be made of a church doing it to one of them and nothing done. They probably put financial pressure on the preachers and pastors to ostracize that church for doing what was right and standing up for the wronged man.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

Fraud wrapped in piety is still fraud. Cheating and lying wrapped in piety is still cheating and lying. Piety and a couple bucks will still get you a cup of coffee.

Piety is probably humanity's oldest profession. People generally defer from calling out the pious because it's a kind of bad luck. That might be because we're not supposed to pick on our lessers and a pious person is obviously somehow disadvantaged or they would not be pious. That's my take.

For some however piety is simply a license to cheat, steal and lie because it is all expected and will be forgiven in the hereafter because we are all just lost sinners.

 

[ideologyhunter]

This is not a fraud story, but my friend had a rich uncle whose will amazed the family. The bulk of his estate went to Oral Fucking Roberts! Can you imagine how you'd remember a relative who decided to give the big money to a televangelist? I'd opt for a car-compacter funeral.

 

[Underseer]

So how long before the Christians claim that this criticism is evidence that they are being "persecuted"?