ruby sparks
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The results of this experiment, as well as another conducted in 2007, proved what Wheeler had always suspected – observers’ consciousness is required to bring the universe into existence. This means that a pre-life Earth would have existed in an undetermined state, and a pre-life universe could only exist retroactively.''
Ok I can't get my head around that.
This guy, Brian Lanza, goes even further:
"But if there were no observers, the universe wouldn't merely look like nothing. No, more than that it wouldn't exist in any way."
And then he cites someone who appears to (approximately) agree with him:
"Physicist Andrei Linde, of Stanford University says, 'the universe and the observer exist as a pair.......I do not know any sense in which I could claim that the universe is here in the absence of observers'"
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id...universe that ignores consciousness.”&f=false
I would have been ready to say that a tree falling in a forest makes no sound if there is nothing there to experience it, but I would have said that the tree itself existed.
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