Columbia University is colluding with the far-right in its attack on students

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Ann Coulter is speaking out against his arrest. This shows you how extreme MAGA has gone.

 

[Derec]

Protest at Columbia today.

How stupid!
"Jews hate ice". That sounds like something Donald O'Brien would say. '
Yes, I know they mean ICE, but with the sign being in all caps, you can't tell the difference.
The anti-ICE message is stupid too. First, we need immigration enforcement. Second, the way this is worded, it implies a sentiment that all Jews share, and not just a far left fringe.
Same goes for the other sign: "Pigs are not kosher" --> i.e. anti-police attitude like during #BLM riots
The kicker is "Jews hate the ADL" - it's nonsensical given that ADL is a Jewish organization.

 

[Derec]

Funny! Good for them. Fuck ice.

Why exactly?

However, I think that protests are near worthless. If people want change, they need to get off their ass and vote!

I agree.

 

[Derec]

College educated people are FAR more likely to vote than other citizens, nearly double if they've completed a post graduate degree.

What good is that when so many of them vote for Jill Stein because "muh purity test"?

More to the point, it's hard to "there is unanimous support for our policies" if you just walked past a hundred angry Jews who do not like you at all and never asked to be MacGuffins for the alt-right.

No policy has unanimous support. But let's look at the reverse. These idiotic signs purport that Jews unanimously agree with them, when in reality they are just a radical fringe.

 

[Derec]

Arrest of Palestinian activist stirs questions about protections for students and green card holders

The arrest of a Palestinian activist who helped organize campus protests of the war in Gaza has sparked questions about whether foreign students and green card holders are protected against being deported from the U.S.

apnews.com

ICE agents arrested him without a warrant and kept him hidden for more than 24 hrs. His lawyers have filed a habeus corpus challenge and a judge has decreed he not be deported until a hearing. Khalil has not been charged with any crime. He has permanent resident status.

I cannot comment on the legality of his pending deportation, but let's look at the outfit he is representing, CAUD or "Columbia University Apartheid Divest".
What are the beliefs of Mahmoud Khalil’s activist group CUAD? - analysis

The issue of law enforcement action against the group’s leadership cannot be separated from the actions and objectives of CUAD, which perceives itself as a revolutionary force working toward the destruction of the United States and Israel.
The means to achieve this are not just through vandalism and civil unrest, which CUAD directly employs, as the group also supports terrorism at home and in the Middle East, praising the October 7 massacre as the pinnacle of revolutionary action.
[...]
CUAD, like most anti-Israel organizations, sees the entirety of Israel as an illegitimate project, not limiting their designs to the Green Line. In an October Instagram post, it described 76 years of “Nakba” and Israeli state illegitimacy, further explaining in an October 17 Substack article commemorating the October 7 massacre that it would “not stop demonstrating until Zionism ends.”
“Colonial projects all die, and Zionism will not be saved,” reads the article.
The so-called liberation sought by these activists is a global revolution, highlighted by their calls to restore the US to “Turtle Island” in the same fashion as they propose Israel become “Palestine.” An encampment banner shown in a June 1 CUAD Instagram post called for liberation “From Turtle Island to Palestine.”
[...]
In a fawning November 7 Substack tribute, it described Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar as a “brave man” who will live in the hearts of many. CUAD praised the October 7 Massacre as “Sinwar’s crowning achievement” because the “Al-Aqsa Flood was the very essence of what it is to resist ‘with what we have.’”
“The act of Palestinian resistance on October 7, known as the Al-Aqsa Flood, breached Israeli security and made significant military advances. [This is] a day that will go down in history.”
Besides Sinwar, the arch-terrorists of Hamas and Hezbollah are the icons of CUAD, with the group mourning the death of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh.
CUAD documents regularly quote PFLP founder George Habash and deceased Hezbollah secretary-general Hassan Nasrallah, such as in a November 21 Substack post in which they praised the concept of “martyrdom” as something only seen as negative by those who had “separated resistance from the path to liberation.”
PFLP spokesperson Ghassan Kanafani is a favorite of the group, with his writings featured in events like those depicted in a November 6 Instagram post. Local terrorists are also praised, with convicted murderer and Black Liberation Army member Assata Shakur’s poetry chanted by students in a September 28 social media video.

A lot more in the article.

Also, one could argue that CUAD saying "either you give us what we want, or we continue taking over campus buildings" is extortion, which is a crime.
I also wonder about CUAD funding and whether there is any material support for Hamas or Hezbollah as defined in federal law.

 

[Axulus]

Arrest of Palestinian activist stirs questions about protections for students and green card holders

The arrest of a Palestinian activist who helped organize campus protests of the war in Gaza has sparked questions about whether foreign students and green card holders are protected against being deported from the U.S.

apnews.com

ICE agents arrested him without a warrant and kept him hidden for more than 24 hrs. His lawyers have filed a habeus corpus challenge and a judge has decreed he not be deported until a hearing. Khalil has not been charged with any crime. He has permanent resident status.

I cannot comment on the legality of his pending deportation, but let's look at the outfit he is representing, CAUD or "Columbia University Apartheid Divest".
What are the beliefs of Mahmoud Khalil’s activist group CUAD? - analysis

The issue of law enforcement action against the group’s leadership cannot be separated from the actions and objectives of CUAD, which perceives itself as a revolutionary force working toward the destruction of the United States and Israel.
The means to achieve this are not just through vandalism and civil unrest, which CUAD directly employs, as the group also supports terrorism at home and in the Middle East, praising the October 7 massacre as the pinnacle of revolutionary action.
[...]
CUAD, like most anti-Israel organizations, sees the entirety of Israel as an illegitimate project, not limiting their designs to the Green Line. In an October Instagram post, it described 76 years of “Nakba” and Israeli state illegitimacy, further explaining in an October 17 Substack article commemorating the October 7 massacre that it would “not stop demonstrating until Zionism ends.”
“Colonial projects all die, and Zionism will not be saved,” reads the article.
The so-called liberation sought by these activists is a global revolution, highlighted by their calls to restore the US to “Turtle Island” in the same fashion as they propose Israel become “Palestine.” An encampment banner shown in a June 1 CUAD Instagram post called for liberation “From Turtle Island to Palestine.”
[...]
In a fawning November 7 Substack tribute, it described Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar as a “brave man” who will live in the hearts of many. CUAD praised the October 7 Massacre as “Sinwar’s crowning achievement” because the “Al-Aqsa Flood was the very essence of what it is to resist ‘with what we have.’”
“The act of Palestinian resistance on October 7, known as the Al-Aqsa Flood, breached Israeli security and made significant military advances. [This is] a day that will go down in history.”
Besides Sinwar, the arch-terrorists of Hamas and Hezbollah are the icons of CUAD, with the group mourning the death of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh.
CUAD documents regularly quote PFLP founder George Habash and deceased Hezbollah secretary-general Hassan Nasrallah, such as in a November 21 Substack post in which they praised the concept of “martyrdom” as something only seen as negative by those who had “separated resistance from the path to liberation.”
PFLP spokesperson Ghassan Kanafani is a favorite of the group, with his writings featured in events like those depicted in a November 6 Instagram post. Local terrorists are also praised, with convicted murderer and Black Liberation Army member Assata Shakur’s poetry chanted by students in a September 28 social media video.

A lot more in the article.

Also, one could argue that CUAD saying "either you give us what we want, or we continue taking over campus buildings" is extortion, which is a crime.
I also wonder about CUAD funding and whether there is any material support for Hamas or Hezbollah as defined in federal law.

Why does any of this matter in regards to whether a crime was committed by Mahmoud Khalil? Why are you supporting the idea that abhorrent viewpoints don't deserve 1A protection?

Also, what did Mahmoud Khalil do specifically that falls under the legal definition of extortion? Do you even know what the legal definition of extortion is?

 

[Derec]

Why does any of this matter in regards to whether a crime was committed by Mahmoud Khalil? Why are you supporting the idea that abhorrent viewpoints don't deserve 1A protection?

I am not a lawyer, but I do know that not all speech is automatically protected.

Also, what did Mahmoud Khalil do specifically that falls under the legal definition of extortion?

Again, not a lawyer, but my understanding is that as leader of CUAD, he was making Columbia an offer they could not refuse.
"Nice campus you have here, would be a shame if something happened to it."

Do you even know what the legal definition of extortion is?

For the third time, I am not a lawyer, but this guy is.
Coercion and Extortion in New York City

Charges of coercion and extortion allege that a defendant used the threat of force or property damage to compel another to do something that they would not otherwise have done.

I think the behavior of CUAD and other groups that vandalize college buildings to pressure them to do their bidding would qualify.

 

[Axulus]

Why does any of this matter in regards to whether a crime was committed by Mahmoud Khalil? Why are you supporting the idea that abhorrent viewpoints don't deserve 1A protection?

I am not a lawyer, but I do know that not all speech is automatically protected.

Also, what did Mahmoud Khalil do specifically that falls under the legal definition of extortion?

Again, not a lawyer, but my understanding is that as leader of CUAD, he was making Columbia an offer they could not refuse.
"Nice campus you have here, would be a shame if something happened to it."

Do you even know what the legal definition of extortion is?

For the third time, I am not a lawyer, but this guy is.
Coercion and Extortion in New York City

Charges of coercion and extortion allege that a defendant used the threat of force or property damage to compel another to do something that they would not otherwise have done.

I think the behavior of CUAD and other groups that vandalize college buildings to pressure them to do their bidding would qualify.

What were his specific words that you believe fall under the definition of extortion? What was the specific offer? I see you didn't bother to quote him.

The witch hunt seems to be we don't like his viewpoint (notice how almost every article about him discusses his viewpoints, as if that were somehow relevant to how we should feel about his arrest, and some vague "well he must have done something nasty like extortion, Trump wouldn't arrest him otherwise".

 

[Derec]

What were his specific words that you believe fall under the definition of extortion? What was the specific offer? I see you didn't bother to quote him.

I don't have quotes. But he was a negotiator for a group that vandalized campus buildings in order to get their way. That makes him involved.

The witch hunt seems to be we don't like his viewpoint (notice how almost every article about him discusses his viewpoints, as if that were somehow relevant to how we should feel about his arrest, and some vague "well he must have done something nasty like extortion, Trump wouldn't arrest him otherwise".

Again, not a lawyer and I am certainly not claiming to know that his arrest and attempted deportation was done correctly.
I was offering a point of view about his pro-terrorism organization and what crimes he may be guilty of as an officer for it.

 

[crazyfingers]

The main point here is that Mahmoud Khalil was arrested with out the required arrest warrant issued by a judge and he's being detained without charges. Those are the actions of a lawless fascist state.

 

[Derec]

The main point here is that Mahmoud Khalil was arrested with out the required arrest warrant issued by a judge

Seriously though, I cannot argue for or against necessity for a warrant under these circumstances. Like everything else in this case, it will have to be argued in court.

and he's being detained without charges. Those are the actions of a lawless fascist state.

Apparently, criminal charges are not required to deport even green card holders.

Confirming reports from The New York Times and CNN, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said Khalil’s arrest was justified under a provision of the Cold War-era Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952, which allows the Secretary of State to declare someone “deportable” if they have “reasonable ground to believe” that the immigrant’s “presence or activities in the U.S. … would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the United States.”
That allows the Trump administration to push for Khalil’s deportation without formally charging him with a crime—which is typically what’s required to revoke someone’s green card—but the activist’s case will still have to play out in court, where the administration will have the burden of proof in showing why Khalil poses a foreign policy threat to the U.S. and should be deported.

[emphasis added]
Since deportation is an administrative rather than criminal issue, it does not require "beyond a reasonable doubt" level of proof.

Also, following a provision of federal law ("Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952") is the opposite of "actions of a lawless fascist state".

 

[crazyfingers]

The main point here is that Mahmoud Khalil was arrested with out the required arrest warrant issued by a judge

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Seriously though, I cannot argue for or against necessity for a warrant under these circumstances. Like everything else in this case, it will have to be argued in court.

and he's being detained without charges. Those are the actions of a lawless fascist state.

Apparently, criminal charges are not required to deport even green card holders.

Confirming reports from The New York Times and CNN, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said Khalil’s arrest was justified under a provision of the Cold War-era Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952, which allows the Secretary of State to declare someone “deportable” if they have “reasonable ground to believe” that the immigrant’s “presence or activities in the U.S. … would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the United States.”
That allows the Trump administration to push for Khalil’s deportation without formally charging him with a crime—which is typically what’s required to revoke someone’s green card—but the activist’s case will still have to play out in court, where the administration will have the burden of proof in showing why Khalil poses a foreign policy threat to the U.S. and should be deported.

[emphasis added]
Since deportation is an administrative rather than criminal issue, it does not require "beyond a reasonable doubt" level of proof.

Also, following a provision of federal law ("Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952") is the opposite of "actions of a lawless fascist state".

A worrant is needed to arrest anyone who is not at the time observe commiting a crime.

A judge is required to determine if the charges of violating that act are met. There has been nothing to suggest that they have anything close to meeting the statute.

1952. Tell me in what era that year was in the middle.

Tell me, do you look forward to a new McCarthy Era? The offence being saying and believing anything that the Trumsucker doesn't like?

This is all a new McCarthy Era in the making.

 

[ZiprHead]

Arrest of Palestinian activist stirs questions about protections for students and green card holders

The arrest of a Palestinian activist who helped organize campus protests of the war in Gaza has sparked questions about whether foreign students and green card holders are protected against being deported from the U.S.

apnews.com

ICE agents arrested him without a warrant and kept him hidden for more than 24 hrs. His lawyers have filed a habeus corpus challenge and a judge has decreed he not be deported until a hearing. Khalil has not been charged with any crime. He has permanent resident status.

I cannot comment on the legality of his pending deportation, but let's look at the outfit he is representing, CAUD or "Columbia University Apartheid Divest".
What are the beliefs of Mahmoud Khalil’s activist group CUAD? - analysis

The issue of law enforcement action against the group’s leadership cannot be separated from the actions and objectives of CUAD, which perceives itself as a revolutionary force working toward the destruction of the United States and Israel.
The means to achieve this are not just through vandalism and civil unrest, which CUAD directly employs, as the group also supports terrorism at home and in the Middle East, praising the October 7 massacre as the pinnacle of revolutionary action.
[...]
CUAD, like most anti-Israel organizations, sees the entirety of Israel as an illegitimate project, not limiting their designs to the Green Line. In an October Instagram post, it described 76 years of “Nakba” and Israeli state illegitimacy, further explaining in an October 17 Substack article commemorating the October 7 massacre that it would “not stop demonstrating until Zionism ends.”
“Colonial projects all die, and Zionism will not be saved,” reads the article.
The so-called liberation sought by these activists is a global revolution, highlighted by their calls to restore the US to “Turtle Island” in the same fashion as they propose Israel become “Palestine.” An encampment banner shown in a June 1 CUAD Instagram post called for liberation “From Turtle Island to Palestine.”
[...]
In a fawning November 7 Substack tribute, it described Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar as a “brave man” who will live in the hearts of many. CUAD praised the October 7 Massacre as “Sinwar’s crowning achievement” because the “Al-Aqsa Flood was the very essence of what it is to resist ‘with what we have.’”
“The act of Palestinian resistance on October 7, known as the Al-Aqsa Flood, breached Israeli security and made significant military advances. [This is] a day that will go down in history.”
Besides Sinwar, the arch-terrorists of Hamas and Hezbollah are the icons of CUAD, with the group mourning the death of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh.
CUAD documents regularly quote PFLP founder George Habash and deceased Hezbollah secretary-general Hassan Nasrallah, such as in a November 21 Substack post in which they praised the concept of “martyrdom” as something only seen as negative by those who had “separated resistance from the path to liberation.”
PFLP spokesperson Ghassan Kanafani is a favorite of the group, with his writings featured in events like those depicted in a November 6 Instagram post. Local terrorists are also praised, with convicted murderer and Black Liberation Army member Assata Shakur’s poetry chanted by students in a September 28 social media video.

A lot more in the article.

Also, one could argue that CUAD saying "either you give us what we want, or we continue taking over campus buildings" is extortion, which is a crime.
I also wonder about CUAD funding and whether there is any material support for Hamas or Hezbollah as defined in federal law.

Why does any of this matter in regards to whether a crime was committed by Mahmoud Khalil? Why are you supporting the idea that abhorrent viewpoints don't deserve 1A protection?

Also, what did Mahmoud Khalil do specifically that falls under the legal definition of extortion? Do you even know what the legal definition of extortion is?

Ypu said it better and before I could.

 

[laughing dog]

What were his specific words that you believe fall under the definition of extortion? What was the specific offer? I see you didn't bother to quote him.

I don't have quotes. But he was a negotiator for a group that vandalized campus buildings in order to get their way. That makes him involved.

The witch hunt seems to be we don't like his viewpoint (notice how almost every article about him discusses his viewpoints, as if that were somehow relevant to how we should feel about his arrest, and some vague "well he must have done something nasty like extortion, Trump wouldn't arrest him otherwise".

Again, not a lawyer and I am certainly not claiming to know that his arrest and attempted deportation was done correctly.
I was offering a point of view about his pro-terrorism organization and what crimes he may be guilty of as an officer for it.

In simpler terms, smear by association.

 

[Derec]

A worrant is needed to arrest anyone who is not at the time observe commiting a crime.

This is not a criminal matter. I do not know how warrants work for immigration issues.

A judge is required to determine if the charges of violating that act are met.

Seems we are in agreement. Courts need to decide.

There has been nothing to suggest that they have anything close to meeting the statute.

And nothing to suggest they aren't. Let the legal case play out.

1952. Tell me in what era that year was in the middle.

Irrelevant. Unless the law was later repealed or amended, it is valid no matter during which era it was passed.

Tell me, do you look forward to a new McCarthy Era? The offence being saying and believing anything that the Trumsucker doesn't like?
This is all a new McCarthy Era in the making.

There is a big difference between support for Hamas terrorism and "saying and believing anything that the Trumsucker doesn't like".

 

[Arctish]

A worrant is needed to arrest anyone who is not at the time observe commiting a crime.

This is not a criminal matter. I do not know how warrants work for immigration issues.

If it's not a criminal matter, what justified the arrest?

Anyone with permanent resident status has already been granted the right to live and work in the United States indefinitely, so it can't be an immigration issue.

Arresting him without charge and hustling him off to a prison far from the reach of the District Court that will hear his case (assuming he gets a hearing) is Chilean Junta-style shit, and you're okay with it?

A judge is required to determine if the charges of violating that act are met.

Seems we are in agreement. Courts need to decide.

There has been nothing to suggest that they have anything close to meeting the statute.

And nothing to suggest they aren't. Let the legal case play out.

1952. Tell me in what era that year was in the middle.

Irrelevant. Unless the law was later repealed or amended, it is valid no matter during which era it was passed.

Tell me, do you look forward to a new McCarthy Era? The offence being saying and believing anything that the Trumsucker doesn't like?
This is all a new McCarthy Era in the making.

There is a big difference between support for Hamas terrorism and "saying and believing anything that the Trumsucker doesn't like".

There is a big difference between being opposed to what's happening in Gaza and being a supporter of Hamas, but do go on. Show us the evidence of Mr. Khalil's wrongdoing. Because right now, it looks like you don't like his opinions and that's reason enough for you to applaud his arrest without charge and possible deportation without due process.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Arrest of Palestinian activist stirs questions about protections for students and green card holders

The arrest of a Palestinian activist who helped organize campus protests of the war in Gaza has sparked questions about whether foreign students and green card holders are protected against being deported from the U.S.

apnews.com

ICE agents arrested him without a warrant and kept him hidden for more than 24 hrs. His lawyers have filed a habeus corpus challenge and a judge has decreed he not be deported until a hearing. Khalil has not been charged with any crime. He has permanent resident status.

I cannot comment on the legality of his pending deportation, but let's look at the outfit he is representing, CAUD or "Columbia University Apartheid Divest".

Let's not put the red herrings out yet. Let's look at the clearly unconstitutional behavior of ICE here because this is an actual slippery slope. To arrest someone without a warrant, to deport someone without a specific crime being committed, and effectively because of his political speech is a very very dangerous violation of the First Amendment which is explicit on this.

To be blunt, the Federal Government has made a declaration about this person, without evidence, without charge, and look to deport them via their own whim.

What are the beliefs of Mahmoud Khalil’s activist group CUAD? - analysis

The issue of law enforcement action against the group’s leadership cannot be separated from the actions and objectives of CUAD, which perceives itself as a revolutionary force working toward the destruction of the United States and Israel.
The means to achieve this are not just through vandalism and civil unrest, which CUAD directly employs, as the group also supports terrorism at home and in the Middle East, praising the October 7 massacre as the pinnacle of revolutionary action.
[...]
CUAD, like most anti-Israel organizations, sees the entirety of Israel as an illegitimate project, not limiting their designs to the Green Line. In an October Instagram post, it described 76 years of “Nakba” and Israeli state illegitimacy, further explaining in an October 17 Substack article commemorating the October 7 massacre that it would “not stop demonstrating until Zionism ends.”
“Colonial projects all die, and Zionism will not be saved,” reads the article.
The so-called liberation sought by these activists is a global revolution, highlighted by their calls to restore the US to “Turtle Island” in the same fashion as they propose Israel become “Palestine.” An encampment banner shown in a June 1 CUAD Instagram post called for liberation “From Turtle Island to Palestine.”
[...]
In a fawning November 7 Substack tribute, it described Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar as a “brave man” who will live in the hearts of many. CUAD praised the October 7 Massacre as “Sinwar’s crowning achievement” because the “Al-Aqsa Flood was the very essence of what it is to resist ‘with what we have.’”
“The act of Palestinian resistance on October 7, known as the Al-Aqsa Flood, breached Israeli security and made significant military advances. [This is] a day that will go down in history.”
Besides Sinwar, the arch-terrorists of Hamas and Hezbollah are the icons of CUAD, with the group mourning the death of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh.
CUAD documents regularly quote PFLP founder George Habash and deceased Hezbollah secretary-general Hassan Nasrallah, such as in a November 21 Substack post in which they praised the concept of “martyrdom” as something only seen as negative by those who had “separated resistance from the path to liberation.”
PFLP spokesperson Ghassan Kanafani is a favorite of the group, with his writings featured in events like those depicted in a November 6 Instagram post. Local terrorists are also praised, with convicted murderer and Black Liberation Army member Assata Shakur’s poetry chanted by students in a September 28 social media video.

A lot more in the article.

The US is home to Neo-Nazis that can not be 1) imprisoned for their beliefs nor 2) expelled from the country. The US is home to NY Jet fans. Again, they can not be 1) imprisoned for their beliefs nor 2) expelled from the country. I abhor their beliefs, neo-Nazis and NY Jet fans, however, there are expansive rights in this country protecting political beliefs. If we allow arbitrary dismissal of the First Amendment for one group, there is nothing stopping the dismissal for others. Anyone can be dismissed from the US if we allow the Executive Branch to dish out expulsions so freely and without due process of the law in violation of the First Amendment via Executive declaration alone. This is becomes no different than a monarchy or dictatorship.

 

[Derec]

If it's not a criminal matter, what justified the arrest?

People may be detained for immigration issues, or is that wrong?

Anyone with permanent resident status has already been granted the right to live and work in the United States indefinitely, so it can't be an immigration issue.

It is when the Green Card is rescinded.

Arresting him without charge and hustling him off to a prison far from the reach of the District Court that will hear his case (assuming he gets a hearing)

How many people active in this thread are lawyers? I am not saying the Trump administration dotted all ts and crossed all is here. We all know they tend to be fuckups when it comes to actual implementation of their ideas.
But I refuse to see Mahmoud Khalil as anything but a degenerate Islamist Hamas supporter, and we do not need to accept his Ilk into this country as immigrants.
All that said, the courts will decide, as well they should. Do you agree?

is Chilean Junta-style shit, and you're okay with it?

It's certainly not "Chilean Junta-style shit". We know where Khalil is being held. He has access to lawyers and to courts.
And it can't be proper "Chilean Junta-style shit" without free helicopter tours.

There is a big difference between being opposed to what's happening in Gaza and being a supporter of Hamas, but do go on.

Indeed. There is a big difference.
But Khalil and the other CUADers are firmly in the latter camp.
Deporting Hamas Supporters Like Mahmoud Khalil Is Perfectly Legal

The Syrian-born green-card recipient served as one of the ringleaders of the post-October 7 riots at his former university and functioned as the lead “negotiator” for the student group known as Columbia United Apartheid Divest (CUAD). CUAD was one of the primary agents of chaos on Columbia’s campus during last spring’s “encampment,” during which rioters smashed windows, defaced and occupied buildings, disrupted classes, and harassed and threatened Jewish students. Interestingly, recent court filings show that Khalil received his green cards just five months ago—long after he and CUAD wreaked havoc (and just eleven days after President Trump’s electoral win).
[...]
The Department of Homeland Security alleges that Khalil, in similar fashion, distributed pro-Hamas flyers on Columbia University’s campus bearing the Hamas insignia, materials purportedly originating from Hamas’s own media arm.

Show us the evidence of Mr. Khalil's wrongdoing. Because right now, it looks like you don't like his opinions and that's reason enough for you to applaud his arrest without charge and possible deportation without due process.

The wrongdoing would be his activities on behalf of CUAD. Whether that turns out to be deportable, is for courts to decide. Certainly, opinions differ. Erielle Azerrad, the author of the City Journal article thinks he is eligible for deportation. She is a lawyer with a JD from Georgetown.

And since I think the courts should decide, I am certainly not against "due process".

 

[laughing dog]

But I refuse to see Mahmoud Khalil as anything but a degenerate Islamist Hamas supporter, and we do not need to accept his Ilk into this country as immigrants.

So you favor deportation of those legally here who hold opinions disapproved by the gov’t. Better hope this travesty is not upheld by the courts because gov’ts and approved views change.

 

[Derec]

Let's not put the red herrings out yet. Let's look at the clearly unconstitutional behavior of ICE here because this is an actual slippery slope. To arrest someone without a warrant, to deport someone without a specific crime being committed, and effectively because of his political speech is a very very dangerous violation of the First Amendment which is explicit on this.

The First Amendment makes no mention of immigrants or immigration policy.

To be blunt, the Federal Government has made a declaration about this person, without evidence, without charge, and look to deport them via their own whim.

Again, courts should decide. Not angry protesters.

The US is home to Neo-Nazis that can not be 1) imprisoned for their beliefs nor 2) expelled from the country.

If the Neonazis are Americans, sure. But I see no reason why US government should not prevent Neonazis, or other holders of detestable, extremist views including Islamism, from immigrating.

This is becomes no different than a monarchy or dictatorship.

Nope. Rules about immigrants' extremist political views do not a "dictatorship" make.