excreationist
Married mouth-breather
From my thread:
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...rix-simulation&p=754682&viewfull=1#post754682
An "old earth" tract:
Evolution and Creation Science, The Bible Taught It First
I am under the impression that the evidence for these three options is deliberately ambiguous and very intelligent people can believe in any of these options, including YEC. (chess champions could be considered to be intelligent)
I am under the impression that when Genesis was written an intelligent force made it look like it would look like good evidence for YEC for modern people.
e.g.
- the talk of "kinds" - it allows micro-evolution but no large scale evolution
- the global flood - an explanation for fossils without requiring millions of years
- the 6 days of creation - it is plausible that the sun, moon and stars could have been created a day after plants, and birds being created before any land animals. (note there was already "light")
- not requiring millions of years of death and suffering (it was "very good")
- a plausible explanation (to YECs) for how the earth could recover from a global flood where 2 of each "kind" are taken on the ark
- how the world could be repopulated so rapidly (tower of Babel story)
- that a woman (XX) was created from a man (XY)
- the idea that all animals were originally plant eaters (consistent with the idea of things being "very good")
- 900+ year lifespans - they were initially free from mutations and perhaps a "flood canopy" explains why the ages started to decrease after the flood
- possible mention of dinosaurs (e.g. the behemoth) and the possibility of "dragons"
There is no need to give counter-arguments for these things - I am already aware of that. And creationists have counter-counter-arguments for just about everything... even regarding the main reason I gave up on YEC, the Green River Formation.
I'm interested in the other ways that the YEC beliefs seem plausible to modern readers.
P.S. About flat earthers - often they use the Bible as evidence - and I think according to the Bible the earth seems to be flat, not a globe. This shows that the Bible isn't 100% literally true though otherwise it can seem to be to YECs.
https://talkfreethought.org/showthr...rix-simulation&p=754682&viewfull=1#post754682
....I think it isn't clear which is the truth out of YEC, guided evolution and blind atheistic evolution. (and other belief systems)
I think world views can move between those three main options... e.g. like in the case of myself, people can go from YEC to atheism:I also think it isn't clear if the Bible is 100% true, partly true or if there is no God/supernatural.....
....If this is a simulation then there doesn't have to be a consistent reality. There could be good reasons to believe any of those three main beliefs....
An "old earth" tract:
Evolution and Creation Science, The Bible Taught It First
I am under the impression that the evidence for these three options is deliberately ambiguous and very intelligent people can believe in any of these options, including YEC. (chess champions could be considered to be intelligent)
I am under the impression that when Genesis was written an intelligent force made it look like it would look like good evidence for YEC for modern people.
e.g.
- the talk of "kinds" - it allows micro-evolution but no large scale evolution
- the global flood - an explanation for fossils without requiring millions of years
- the 6 days of creation - it is plausible that the sun, moon and stars could have been created a day after plants, and birds being created before any land animals. (note there was already "light")
- not requiring millions of years of death and suffering (it was "very good")
- a plausible explanation (to YECs) for how the earth could recover from a global flood where 2 of each "kind" are taken on the ark
- how the world could be repopulated so rapidly (tower of Babel story)
- that a woman (XX) was created from a man (XY)
- the idea that all animals were originally plant eaters (consistent with the idea of things being "very good")
- 900+ year lifespans - they were initially free from mutations and perhaps a "flood canopy" explains why the ages started to decrease after the flood
- possible mention of dinosaurs (e.g. the behemoth) and the possibility of "dragons"
There is no need to give counter-arguments for these things - I am already aware of that. And creationists have counter-counter-arguments for just about everything... even regarding the main reason I gave up on YEC, the Green River Formation.
I'm interested in the other ways that the YEC beliefs seem plausible to modern readers.
P.S. About flat earthers - often they use the Bible as evidence - and I think according to the Bible the earth seems to be flat, not a globe. This shows that the Bible isn't 100% literally true though otherwise it can seem to be to YECs.