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Ah, fan fiction can't be written in only decades, but has to take at least 499 years...what orifice did you pull that out of?In the Illiad, Homer describes the gods of Olympus meddling in the affairs of humans, inciting war, strife, jealousy.....does that mean that the gods of Olympus do exist and do meddle in the affairs of humankind?
No, for miracle claims we need MORE THAN ONLY ONE SOURCE. (Homer is the only source for this.)
And also, we need sources near to the time of the reported events. (Homer is about 500 years later than the reported events.)
Ah, the whole 'witness' thingy. Except that anonymous writers, writing 30-90 years after claimed miracle events, and not the purported witnesses in said writing, are not witnesses. They are stories including claims of witnesses.But further, we need reported events for which there were witnesses who saw something. We have to know what was seen by someone. So, did someone reportedly see the gods "meddling" in the affairs, like witnesses reportedly saw Jesus performing the healing miracles? or like witnesses saw him alive after having seen him killed a few days earlier?
A large swath of Christian theologians subscribe to the The Two-source hypothesis ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-s...s that the Gospel,emerged in the 19th century ). So the synoptic (3) gospels are considered by a large grouping of theologians, just 2. The Gospel of John, which was written 50 -80 years after events is incredibly unrelated to the synoptic set, and only shares 3 miracle events, so it doesn't really support the other 3. And Paul by his own admission was never a witness to events, he had 'visions'. So it is more like 2 sources by the accounts of a huge swath of mainstream theologians, or the (3) if one wants to include the psychedelic John.So, just because someone describes superhuman entities doing something doesn't mean it really happened. For superhuman acts we need extra evidence, beyond what is required for ordinary events. Such as we have for the Jesus miracle acts: 4 (5) sources near to the time of the reported events.