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    Argument from perfection against the existence of god

    I disagree with the implication that Humanity is as close to perfect that something can be without actually being perfect. I also disagree with the implication that anything that is not above Humans (a term which is undefined to begin with) must be equivalent to Humans.
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    Argument from perfection against the existence of god

    I think you need to show evidence for P3. I mean, yeah, it's a concept that Humans have, but if there is a God, why could this God have not also come up with the same concept? I also disagree with C3, as I think it's based on a false dichotomy, that things are either perfect or ordinary. I...
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    Demystifying Determinism

    You are missing my point because those are not starting from the same place. And there is nothing in the calculation of pi that introduces an element of randomness. My point was that if we were able to rewind the universe back to some previous state, then let it play out again, we would find...
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    Demystifying Determinism

    I've clearly stated what my position is, several times. Once again you are arguing against a strawman of my position. I have NEVER claimed that cause and effect is wrong.
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    Demystifying Determinism

    Good Lord... I'm, not saying that if things are unpredictable then we can literally travel back and forth in time, for crying out loud. Are you unfamiliar with the concept of a HYPOTHETICAL? I'm saying that IF things are unpredictable, and IF we COULD rewind the universe and play it again, we...
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    Demystifying Determinism

    Yes it does. If unpredictability still allows for the universe to be rewound and then played again, then an outside observer could remember the outcome and then introduce that knowledge. For example... The outside observer ("OO" for short) watches the week play out from Monday to Friday. OO...
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    Demystifying Determinism

    How can you say they are free of influence when they are by necessity going to be the same each time? You seem to be determined to miss my point. If what happens is happening by necessity, then we do not have free will, since we can not choose to do anything different. And don't even think...
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    Demystifying Determinism

    Irrelevant. If there is a necessary outcome, then it will happen no matter what. It can't be changed, and thus I have no choice in the matter. At best, I only THINK I have free choice. I have pointed this out many times now. You miss the point. Doing anything differently is IMPOSSIBLE. And...
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    Demystifying Determinism

    But that unpredictability is what makes the outcome impossible to predict. It means that the outcome is NOT set in stone, it is NOT inevitable, and that whatever happens is NOT the one sequence of events that must necessarily happen. And since the outcome is not set in stone, it is flexible, and...
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    Demystifying Determinism

    Sorry, do you think that writing something in italics means it's true? If the universe, when rewound, will end up the same, then we will end up with the same intentions. There is no avoiding having the same intentions. The intentions will be the same out of necessity. Free will can not exist...
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    Demystifying Determinism

    You have that entirely back to front. A person who hold a gun to my head and tells me to give him my money is not controlling my free will. I can still choose to not cooperate. All he is doing is providing a motivational effect. He is not FORCING the outcome. However, in the scenario where the...
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    Demystifying Determinism

    Now, you will no doubt tell me that an event that will necessarily happen is not inevitable, and an event that is inevitable doesn't mean it's necessarily going to happen, because all you have is quibbling over wordplay.
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    Demystifying Determinism

    But it is not free from influence. It's influenced by the fact that it MUST be the same outcome every single time. And once again you are repeating the PRATT that I'm saying free will completely throws cause-and-effect out the window. How about you stop resorting to strawman arguments?
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    Demystifying Determinism

    So how do we have free choice if the end result MUST be exactly the same as the first time? Can't say I've seen that movie, but that's lovely music.
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    Demystifying Determinism

    You seem to have missed the fact that at some point it will no longer be in the future. Once that point is no longer in the future, we can see what happened and we can't change what happened. And how do we know if we are in a replay or not? What differences will there be? I can't think of any...
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