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    "Citizen-Led" Decision-Making

    Direct Democracy = everyone participates equally vs. Representative Democracy = unequal power elites emerge, dominate and impose their narrow agenda for a select wealthy few They are features of "representative democracy" as it's now practiced. They are the alternative to direct democracy...
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    Corporations are People?

    step right up -- fresh people for sale! "I'll take a dozen!" It's not true that all corporations can be bought and sold and that people can't ever be bought and sold (legally). These are both incorrect, because there are exceptions to both. Some corporations cannot be bought and sold: Google...
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    Corporations are People?

    You can't write your own Constitution or your own 1st Amendment. Yes they should have basic 1st Amendment rights, just as the Supreme Court ruled in the Citizens United case. They should have these basic rights, because these rights are guaranteed to "the people" as the Amendment says in its...
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    Corporations are People?

    So everyone here agrees: "Groups are not people" E.g., a softball team is not people, a school class is not people, a beach party is not people, a sewing club is not people, a crowded marketplace is not people, a marching band is not people, a family is not people, a tribe is not people, a...
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    Corporations are People?

    Businesses corporations are not people. Can't you understand -- your tirade is against all businesses, not just against corporations. The slogan is "corporations are not people" So this now is a very major point, to explain why corporations are "not people" -- this is "the heart" of the whole...
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    "Citizen-Led" Decision-Making

    Who would participate in "Direct Democracy"? "participate" = make decisions The best selection system (who participates?) is self-selection. I.e., anyone who shows up and says "I want to participate" is automatically made a participant. It doesn't have to be limited to "citizens," although it...
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    Corporations are People?

    A GROUP of people has the same basic rights, as a group, that the individual members have. Any group, including corporations. Yes, but so is the group they are members of. This group Girl Scouts as a collective has the right to publish, to promote a cause, even promote something political (if...
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    Corporations are People?

    Repeat after me --- "The Girl Scouts is NOT PEOPLE" -- say it! or say "Planned Parenthood is NOT PEOPLE" You're a ###-ing ph^$*@ny if you won't say these words. You're contradicting yourself. You're saying the Girl Scouts corporation people deliver quality products, but that the Corporations...
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    "Citizen-Led" Decision-Making

    Is "direct democracy" today a failure? What "direct democracy"? Has it led to some bad results? What bad results? We can? How? What is in "today's politics" that tells us why the founders did not want "direct democracy"? What does this refer to? This clearly implies that some kind of "direct...
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    Corporations are People?

    more and more of the same phoniness, the same dishonesty: No, stop it! cut out the phoniness! We're talking about an IT-- Singular. The Girl Scouts Corporation. So to prove you're not a phony, say the following. Post it here -- The Girl Scouts is not people. or The ACLU is not people. or...
  11. Lumpenproletariat

    Corporations are People?

    What's different about corporations? Why are other groups "people" but corporations are not? people? The Girl Scouts is a corporation, which your cult preaches is "not people!" Not only is it a corporation, but it practices profit-making, even though it's "non-profit" -- and it does everything...
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    "Citizen-Led" Decision-Making

    You're right. We should leave all decision-making to our Leaders (like Trump) and their appointees and the Party in power. They're the ones who know the real information vs. the misinformation.
  13. Lumpenproletariat

    "Citizen-Led" Decision-Making

    What is the prejudice against "direct democracy"? They don't have to be. If you just arbitrarily start from the premise that "initiative" measures/petitions have to be garbage, no matter what, you could also just assume that tyranny is the only thing that can ever work, and any kind of...
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    Corporations are People?

    This response proves my point: The fanatics are driven by a stubborn refusal to recognize an obvious fact. I.e., the fact that All businesses of any kind, big and small, are "not people." I.e., the electrical repair service, the taxi service, the landscaping & gardening service, the local...
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    Corporations are People?

    If "Corporations are not people" who else is "not people"? So anyone (any group) taxed on their (its) profits rather than revenues is "not people"? By that rule, it's not only "corporations" which are "not people," but ALL businesses big and small, including partnerships, independent...
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