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    "Naturalism"; Any takers?

    I know, right? I’ve been away for a while. Just had a lot going on, catching up on things, buying stuff, tying up loose ends, and getting some projects done around the house. You know how it goes. Anyway, did I miss anything exciting while I was gone? Any DLH sightings? NHC
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    "Naturalism"; Any takers?

    The way I understand it, naturalism is the view that the world can be understood through natural processes rather than relying on supernatural explanations. But I think there’s an important distinction depending on how someone defines it. For example, methodological naturalism is basically the...
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    'Follow On' Word Game

    Game plan NHC
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    Corporations are People?

    You’re still conflating ordinary liberty with state-conferred legal power, and that’s the mistake you keep circling without ever landing. Going to the bathroom is not “delegated authority.” It doesn’t create a separate legal actor, doesn’t aggregate other people’s money, doesn’t shield anyone...
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    Corporations are People?

    You keep circling one example because you want to reframe a campaign finance rule as if it were the first federal ban on political speech in U.S. history. That premise is false. The Hillary movie fight happened because federal election law already restricted corporations from using general...
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    Corporations are People?

    Because corporations are not just “groups of people” doing the same thing individuals do. They are a distinct legal instrument that exists only because the state grants it special economic features that no individual or informal group has. That’s what makes them different, and that’s why the law...
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    Corporations are People?

    You’re still pretending this is about who is rich instead of what the legal structure allows, and that’s the entire dodge. No one is claiming corporations have a special right to speak that others lack. The issue is that incorporation grants a state-created capacity to convert pooled capital...
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    Corporations are People?

    This is about First Amendment rights, but you keep smuggling in a false premise that every exercise of speech must be treated identically regardless of structure. The Constitution protects speech; it does not guarantee every legal construct the same mechanisms to project it. Calling...
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    Corporations are People?

    You’re smuggling in a false choice. Nobody is proposing “billionaires can speak but the ACLU can’t.” The ACLU speaks right now, loudly, every day. The actual dispute is whether a state granted business form gets to convert pooled, liability shielded, potentially perpetual treasury money into...
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    Corporations are People?

    Because you keep swapping “speech” for “treasury spending behind a liability shield.” People have rights. Associations of people have rights. A corporation is a tool the state recognizes to pool money, separate liability, and persist beyond any member. The argument is whether that tool’s pooled...
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    Corporations are People?

    It does retain First Amendment protections through the people inside it. What you are demanding is something stronger and different, that the state-created entity itself be treated as an independent political speaker with the same standing as a citizen. That leap is the entire controversy, and...
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    Corporations are People?

    You’re arguing against a strawman you invented. “Corporations are not people” is shorthand for one narrow point, corporate status does not entitle an entity to the full political rights of a human voter. Straight answer about the ACLU. The ACLU can speak. No one is trying to gag it. What it...
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    Corporations are People?

    The ACLU isn’t people; its members are. The corporation has some First Amendment protection to speak and publish, but it doesn’t hold the full set of human rights. It cannot vote, claim a self-incrimination privilege, assert personal liberty interests, or demand the same electoral leeway as a...
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    Corporations are People?

    That’s wrong in law and in practice. A corporation carries state-granted shields that a family or club does not. Limited liability against involuntary creditors. Entity asset partitioning. Perpetual life. Easier capital aggregation through transferable shares. Those privileges are why corporate...
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    Corporations are People?

    Yes answer, clean and final, the ACLU isn’t people. If you think it is, do any one thing with the ACLU itself and not its members, make it cast a ballot, swear an oath, or sit in a jail cell. You can’t. Legal personhood lets a paper entity own property and sue; it doesn’t turn a charter into a...
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