Eldarion Lathria
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I wonder if that is because in some countries young adults are second class citizens with fewer rights than older adults.
Eldarion Lathria
Eldarion Lathria
no, the problem is that only one end of the spectrum is engaging in political violence, and the zeitgeist narrative around the few times that the other side does engage in political violence is one of derision and dismissal, and never of support.The problem is that extremists on both ends of the horseshoe are saying that about the other side as well as those in the middle part of the horseshoe.
very simple: left wing political violence is in pursuit of justice, fairness, equality, and the progress of human civilization as a whole.If you say left wing political violence is ok and even laudable, how can you condemn right wing political violence?
Major BS! Did you sleep through 2014-2020, 1992, as well as most of 60s and 70s, Rip van Prideandfall?no, the problem is that only end of the spectrum is engaging in political violence.
On the contrary, they have been very busy. It's just that they usually get a slap on the wrist, like the two terrorist lawyers from NYC who will get merely 18-24 months for constructing and using explosive devices as part of left wing violence.the left has been dragging its feet about that for decades, to disastrous result.
very simple: left wing political violence is in pursuit of justice, fairness, equality, and the progress of human civilization as a whole. right wing political violence is in service to bigotry, elitism, and predatory authoritarianism.
In other words, political violence is good when your side does it, but evil when the other side does it.you can find the idea of political violence as a general concept acceptable, but then have an opinion on the execution and justification for that violence, there is no hypocrisy there.
so, as per usual, you have no concept of reality.Major BS! Did you sleep through 2014-2020, 1992, as well as most of 60s and 70s, Rip van Prideandfall?no, the problem is that only end of the spectrum is engaging in political violence.
which, as per usual, is literally not the thing you're feebly trying to claim it it.On the contrary, they have been very busy. It's just that they usually get a slap on the wrist, like the two terrorist lawyers from NYC who will get merely 18-24 months for constructing and using explosive devices as part of left wing violence.the left has been dragging its feet about that for decades, to disastrous result.
well firstly it wasn't left wing political violence, and secondly it promotes progress by doing the only thing that *ever* promotes progress: reminding those in power that they are only in power because we let them be.How do the deadly riots of 2020 promote "justice, fairness" and all that stuff you do not really believe in? How does burning down a dinosaur museum and a car dealership, or vandalizing a Target or taking over several city blocks and establishing a racially segregated garden promote progress?very simple: left wing political violence is in pursuit of justice, fairness, equality, and the progress of human civilization as a whole. right wing political violence is in service to bigotry, elitism, and predatory authoritarianism.
yes.In other words, political violence is good when your side does it, but evil when the other side does it.you can find the idea of political violence as a general concept acceptable, but then have an opinion on the execution and justification for that violence, there is no hypocrisy there.
bullshit. you already agree with that sentiment and endorse it practically every day.And the other side says the same thing.
I say pox on both you ends of the horseshoe.
Black Lives Matter is a movement founded by two "trained Marxists".so, as per usual, you have no concept of reality
2014-2020 wasn't 'the left' engaging in political violence.
You are disavowing LA Riots? News to me. Usually you leftists support it because "police bad, black thugs good".1992 wasn't 'the left' engaging in political violence.
May not be recent, but it is still relevant as the 60s and 70s violence has left lasting scars on US. Just like the leftist #BLM violence of 2014-2020 has done.you have a point about the 60s and 70s, and WOW HOLY SHIT WAY TO POINT OUT A RELEVANT AND RECENT EXAMPLE.
So you think the Left should stop dragging its feet so much and should start do more bank robbing, Senate building/military base/university bombings, police officer ambushing and other tactics of groups like WU or BPP?(and to also prove my point about the left dragging its feet for decades)
What is not the thing? What are you referring to?which, as per usual, is literally not the thing you're feebly trying to claim it it.
Why do you think it was not left wing political violence?well firstly it wasn't left wing political violence, and secondly it promotes progress by doing the only thing that *ever* promotes progress: reminding those in power that they are only in power because we let them be.
That applies to your favorite riot too - January 6th. If you think widespread rioting of 2020 was justified because that "is how the people demonstrate that the status quo you like so much only exists with their permission", then why should January 6th rioters not be able to make the same demonstration?violent riots and destroying property and businesses is how the people demonstrate that the status quo you like so much only exists with their permission.
Does that apply to any mob demanding things or just left wing mobs?you need to continue to get that permission, or else you don't get to have your status quo anymore.
The president is a Democrat now. So if some right wing nut wants to "murder them all" and "dismantle the entire apparatus" of the Biden administration, you are fine with that?that fear is the only way to get an entrenched power class to release its stranglehold on the balls of the human race, short of straight up murdering them and dismantling the entire apparatus of power structures.
I never endorsed any political violence. You, on the other hand, fully support political violence from the left.bullshit. you already agree with that sentiment and endorse it practically every day.
you are pathetically trying to now distance yourself from it just to score a point against me. it's unbelievably sad, even for you.
and? it's not political violence so it doesn't matter.Black Lives Matter is a movement founded by two "trained Marxists".so, as per usual, you have no concept of reality
2014-2020 wasn't 'the left' engaging in political violence.
as i previously stated, i'm not a 'leftist' so you need to get it out of your head.You are disavowing LA Riots? News to me. Usually you leftists support it because "police bad, black thugs good".1992 wasn't 'the left' engaging in political violence.
yeah except not to both of those things.May not be recent, but it is still relevant as the 60s and 70s violence has left lasting scars on US. Just like the leftist #BLM violence of 2014-2020 has done.you have a point about the 60s and 70s, and WOW HOLY SHIT WAY TO POINT OUT A RELEVANT AND RECENT EXAMPLE.
that's an impressive non sequitur even for you.So you think the Left should stop dragging its feet so much and should start do more bank robbing, Senate building/military base/university bombings, police officer ambushing and other tactics of groups like WU or BPP?(and to also prove my point about the left dragging its feet for decades)
i mean the trouble is that it's you so i could be referring to literally anything you've ever posted, and it would be accurate to describe it as not the thing you're feebly trying to claim it is, but in this particular case that: is not an example of left wing political violence.What is not the thing? What are you referring to?which, as per usual, is literally not the thing you're feebly trying to claim it it.
because the only way you can possibly classify social unrest that is a reaction to institutional mistreatment of a particular ethnic group as 'left wing political violence' is you define that term only as a boogeyman which applies to anything that you disapprove of.Why do you think it was not left wing political violence?well firstly it wasn't left wing political violence, and secondly it promotes progress by doing the only thing that *ever* promotes progress: reminding those in power that they are only in power because we let them be.
well i'm not a leftist, and even if i was you pretty much completely defeated your own argument here, because the incredibly minor and insignificant incidences of social unrest you love to harp on and on about did not claim a political justification for their behavior, nor demand a political response under threat of an escalation.And your second point, any radical group can use the same justification for their violence. Face it, you leftists are not special.
well firstly, i don't really give a shit about january 6th excepting how fucking hilarious it is how hypocritical you people are about it.That applies to your favorite riot too - January 6th. If you think widespread rioting of 2020 was justified because that "is how the people demonstrate that the status quo you like so much only exists with their permission", then why should January 6th rioters not be able to make the same demonstration?violent riots and destroying property and businesses is how the people demonstrate that the status quo you like so much only exists with their permission.
I detest all riots, including January 6th. But I am disgusted that the D politicians and the media are singularly focusing on it and ignoring and even lying about (it was not "peaceful protesting"!) all the left wing violence.
that applies to any mob that is reminding those in power that if they don't continue to get that permission they don't get to have the status quo anymore.Does that apply to any mob demanding things or just left wing mobs?you need to continue to get that permission, or else you don't get to have your status quo anymore.
nope, because that would be a riot to preserve the status quo of oppression of gays and women's bodies.If anti-abortion or anti-gay mob were to burn down some businesses and government buildings, is that legitimate demonstration that we need to get their "permission" to "have [our] status quo" or that that, in your mind, only apply to left wing mobs rioting for thugs and against police?
on a cosmic level? sure - biden is one human being, we're not short of them. the US political landscape isn't sacrosanct.The president is a Democrat now. So if some right wing nut wants to "murder them all" and "dismantle the entire apparatus" of the Biden administration, you are fine with that?that fear is the only way to get an entrenched power class to release its stranglehold on the balls of the human race, short of straight up murdering them and dismantling the entire apparatus of power structures.
you endorse political violence repeatedly every single day that you post on this forum and you have for years.I never endorsed any political violence.bullshit. you already agree with that sentiment and endorse it practically every day.
you are pathetically trying to now distance yourself from it just to score a point against me. it's unbelievably sad, even for you.
do i?You, on the other hand, fully support political violence from the left.
saying that it's ok to "murder them all" when it's the other side doing it to their designated targets is also very dangerous.Saying that it's ok to "murder them all" because your side is supposedly the righteous one is very dangerous.
it's only hypocritical if you presume that i'm operating from a whiny pacifist starting point that "violence is never the answer"Not to mention hypocritical.
What's a legitimate authority of the British crown?Sure, but only against the legitimate authority of the British crown.Isn't that the presumptive reason for having the 2nd amendment in the first place? So people can rebel if they need to?