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    Why does Jesus grieve for Lazarus’s death?

    Personally imho, and if you were honest to yourself. Ephesian would be the least of your worries, comparing with what madness there is out there, in the world.
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    Why does Jesus grieve for Lazarus’s death?

    It seems to me - you have a totally different concept understanding of the bible, than many theists do (I am asssuming Ephesians understands it as I do), in contex that 'death and sin' came into the world, AFTER Adam and Eve (who were perfect in the first place) were decieved.
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    What would count as proof of God

    Indeed there's no shame when it is indeed the case. And (I'm sorry I need to say here) when it comes to pride or ego (or having some personal grudge) by falsely ascribing "making things up" to someone, who isn't - would just make you look a little foolish, especially by the person, who has...
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    What would count as proof of God

    I recall you said that once before, you were so sure of it. And when I did, I said luckily no one made any bets t.. because they would have lost a few dollars. I'm a slow poster, but don't make any bets. (that'll be my next post before anything else, and I just noticed. I'll correct your...
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    What would count as proof of God

    Yes well here's the problem with your idea of the Christian faith. You are confusing this, it sounds like, with something you see in the movies. You said you've read the bible, but I have to believe you were not really taking it in. Rather you saw a lot of texts and thought you'd just race...
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    What would count as proof of God

    Fair enough.. I'll make a few transcritptions too, for the sake of the discussion. Bear with me. Meanwhile (lets not digress on this bit) the logic sense of the standard model, absolutely telling us, we can claim that no universe creator is possible!
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    What would count as proof of God

    You must assume I'm talking about Theists, as I mentioned in other posts, but for clarity as you ask, theists. The second part. But how would one know, this couldn't be applied to atheists?
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    What would count as proof of God

    A little more than his non-existent debunking I mean. We don't claim physics can explain God. .Only you lot keep asking us to, rather disengenous, when we don't make those claims Heres the thing... Theoreticals can't tell you absolutes.
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    What would count as proof of God

    Baby with bathwater lol yes...but the data ...the data? Did you see them?
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    What would count as proof of God

    Well we can address those individual post a bit at a time.. .just dumping long posts for affect could be better done by links if you want that discussion, but no probs.. there are no issues for me here.
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    What would count as proof of God

    You got to give me a little more than that, rather than your personal opinion. Nice try... you debunked zilch. Again.. Check out the link The evidence against materialism. A good method we currently have at the moment. We don't claim its absolute, it's a working progress. Testing and testing.
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    What would count as proof of God

    Really? Is it because its hard to detect , therefore you can't tell what it's actually doing, and yet ... it is believed dark matter does have some affect to the its mirror opposite, apparently? Check out the link The evidence against materialism. A good method we currently have at the moment.
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    What would count as proof of God

    No surprise to that answer. But do YOU understand the standard model can't tell you zilch? It can't tell you if there's ANY possibilty for a god to exist or not, soley based on the model. I would have thought it wise to think, and just say "we don't know, or couldn't know." Have an agnostic...
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    What would count as proof of God

    I'll cease it here, before it becomes a toing and froing - you have a point of view, fair enough.. I am from a working class backgound. I was one of those kids, that loved school dinners lol, speaking od dinners I smell burning.
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    What would count as proof of God

    No worries, I'm not fully convinced of the "Light speed is only a “limit” in THIS universe, not the one that contains ours or the ones ours contains."concept as of yet.
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    What would count as proof of God

    Wel I don't know. But then, as you're indicating, you can demonstrate the factor for that descision, "Light speed is only a “limit” in THIS universe, not the one that contains ours or the ones ours contains." I am opened to it, I think.
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    What would count as proof of God

    Omm yes, I have done in the past, and now I'm a theist Thats what theists say about God, beyond (all) limits . :) Agreed. I think the mentioning of them in the first place, doesn't seem to be as affective in making any points, as was probably intended. Alls good.
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    What would count as proof of God

    F1 Refrigerators exist F2 I own a refrigerator F3 Refrigerators contain things F4 Chickens are things I have chicken in the fridge. (non living) What are the possibilties, if someone actually claims to have elephant in the fridge? Very little descriptive clarity, provided by you, on the...
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    What would count as proof of God

    (in no particular order ) Gday Exlir, I'm not actually a virtual reality or matix proponant. This I thought I'd better make clear. An interesting idea, considering the data or information would have to travel considerable faster than light, e.g. the refresh rate needing to go throughout the...
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    What would count as proof of God

    I have a previous post of yours to get to, which should also cover your recent posts. I'll get there in a bit.
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