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The same way I can know what's on your mind.

It's a statement of the bleeding obvious that Lincoln wished slavery wasn't the issue threatening the union - but it WAS. Read the bit you didn't BOLD "If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves, I would do it, and if I...

bilby misses the point that whilst you don't need God to act morally, you DO need something superior to God if you want to to challenge His moral law - replacing it with your own.

A game about what? Not slavery according to you because nobody cared about slavery apparently. So what was it that people cared enough about to fight a war? That wasn't 'explained'. The person who thought that also said Lincoln didn't believe in life after death...

If they didn't care about slavery, if nobody cared about slavery, why did the Confederacy want to secede? And WTF was Abraham Lincoln going on and on and on about?

...making the Civil War a bit of a waste of time. ???

No, I take the view that the morally correct thing to do is the one which maximally benefits everyone, or leads to the maximal benefit for all. I would argue that you can't do the morally correct act without it benefiting you. And the inverse would also hold in my opinion. You could do an...

I dont think theres a fallacy committed in appealing to a dictionary definition to support your own argument based on that definition. If your opponent has a different definition of the same word, all that's happening is a discovery that you're not arguing about the same thing - youre...

Finally!

Why would you promise to pay the person whose rightful wage you were stealing? The act of theft is the NON payment.

This is central to the Old Testament slavery polemic argument. Slavery is bad but what if it's the lesser of two evils? ...yes, yes. I understand you lost your house and your job and all your possessions during that war. But I can't afford to pay you a wage. ...and I'd love to feed you and...

Attempted explanations dont work if they are unconvincing. Um. No. I've read every post in this thread. This is like saying the hammer and the nail are the reason why the house was built. I say it did. Specifically, by virtue of the fact that America was overwhelmingly Christian, most...

Where the bible mentions slavery its usually a reference to voluntary and/or reluctantly consensual slavery. And it's invariably about harm-minimisation. Would you say modern governments 'approve' of heroin use just because those governments fund safe injecting rooms for addicts?

If slavery was an undisputed, perfectly obvious Christian, scriptural value, why did an overwhelmingly Christian nation abolish slavery?

Slavery is wage theft. The bible says thou shalt not steal.

Ever checked to see if your Great Grandfather's name, date of birth, marriage, baptism, spouse, children, etc was written in any family bible?

Wouldn't you have to think before deciding whether or not to obey? - Why should I obey this rule - this advice? - Does obeying this rule benefit me? - Who is it asking me to obey? No. They could be completely rational and justified in thinking those morals are correct. This is circuitous...

So far laughing dog has given us; The anti slavery view prevailed due to North’s victory over the South. and Slavery is bad because it's bad.

No. He said the bible didn't inform his great grandfather's moral judgement but left a great big vacuous, question begging hole in the place where his great grandfather actually DID get his belief instead.

The methodology is so subjective and selective it's about as worthless as an opinion. (Someone is wrong on the internet.) Quibbling about what does or doesn't meet your idea of community benefit misses the point that such tax breaks are simple economic rationalism. "A 2019 report by the...