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Surreal is the right word. It's gotten worse since then too. Imagine if the mortality rate was a bit higher? It easily could have been.

I guess I see using the best available data differently than admitting they were wrong. They also didn't expect it to mutate as fast as it did. I agree as well that there were some pretty loose statements made by talking heads - I had my head buried in virology podcasts for most of it. They...

So no science can be trusted by any measure. OK.

I'm curious as well what scientists "admitted" being wrong about.

Yup. I'm a self hating Jew because I don't like Netanyahu. Isn't that how it works?

Some are, some are paid by universities, private industry, different govts…when the majority paint a similar picture, you can start to feel confidence in their data. Scientists also tend to be more cooperative with their work than other institutions. The virologists I follow often talk about...

Pandemics have naturally occurred throughout history. If you are genuinely interested in this stuff, there is a lot of great information from the consensus of virologists and immunologists out there who discuss all this in great detail, with tons of scientific data to back them up. I strongly...

I would recommend championing the cause of some super wealthy libertarian like Musk or Koch. Find out what they want deregulated so they can generate even more gobs of money. Get involved with their think tanks. You don't run on that cause however (that's your funding) - you find a cause that...

I just wanted to know what was going on there - it is probably a question of semantics. Lion IRC can chime in here....Is pood correct? Are you saying that man can only replicate God's creations? Therefore the word "create" can only apply to the original creation of everything? Not really trying...

Ok, but also in your first post in this thread... "Created. Great. Another win for Team Creationists" it sure seems like you are implying that the word "created" indicates some sort of win for team creationists.

I remember Trump appointing climate change denier Scott Pruitt to head the EPA

As a matter I don't argue with religious people these days...but this is an interesting one. You seem hung up on the word "create" - as if that word can only mean something produced by your God. Verb - Middle English createn, borrowed from Latin creātus, past participle of creāre "to bring...

On the wall of the holocaust museum, a quote from an imprisoned Lutheran pastor... "First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out — because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out — because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came...

100% agree with the OP. If I was an interviewee and wanted to get my point across, I would most certainly want the interviewer to toss the main arguments against my position at me so I can point out their flaws. Unless of course I was an idiot.

The most interesting part of this to me is the "good vs evil" part

Thanks for the reply on this. Mine are just observations from my own situation- although I hear similar stories from other sectors. I agree that efficiency is a good thing, but in my company there is definitely a lack of value placed on those doing the work. During the labour shortage we often...

Admittedly I pretty angry with Israel. They have been going in a bad direction politically since the mid 90s. I said to myself when Netanyahu got it the last time that this could be it for Israel. I can’t remember the name of the military tactic where you do a guerrilla strike and the response...

Pre Oct 7 - It's been much easier for Palestinians to cross the border into Israel than into Egypt.

Seems odd to me that 401k is tied to the stock market. How does that not skew US politics to the right? The whole idea of (trying to) make money without providing any value seems like a problem I've been working for a big corporation for awhile now and it's painfully obvious that we are in the...

Exactly. The logical fallacy is even called "the "Appeal To Authority Fallacy"