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Sorry have not figured the new way to address selected portions of what you said. The quote system. Working on it. But quickly your first thought....."Your claim isn't that your belief in god affects your worldview. ".....No.... That actually is may claim. Your meaning of life is far...

Hello Wiploc, I have been gone for years. And on my first post of return, I find you. The person I left off with in great discussion over the KCA. Glad you are still here. anyway.... Meaning....the meaning for my life is to know God and make him known. I'm certain you hold a different...

Because it is wrong. And I don't think it was a creationist. Basic curiosity.

Everyone has a worldview. All worldviews address origin, morality, meaning and destiny. Whether God exists or not would affect each area of everyone's wv. That is quite impactful.

Who said this?

I hope to as well. So sorry for an avoidable delay at this season in life. You have been great. :cool:

Hold on. You are missing the importance of the eternal here. Isn’t it reasonable in order to avoid an infinite regress to reason that the first cause had to be eternal? Also…. Tell me how and why so many prominent scientists have reasoned that the universe is eternal and the first cause. Did...

The main problem you have there is that YOU have invented one of the dumbest ways to think about this and then straw manned it to “religious folks.” Get real. I have provided reasoning (supported by science) to believe that the universe and thus time began to exist. Thus it supports my...

God existed “before” time………….. Yes as explained in post 281………. “Now Please notice I intentionally used the word “before“ there only to clarify the thought. Technically the word “before” creates a contradiction…but perhaps it made the point clearer for you. The proper way to say the God...

And again I point out that your contradiction fails here……………. God existed “before” time zero. God is eternal. Time is not. Just because time began to exist does not mean God began to exist. a Hence God existed “before” time zero. God without time is timeless. Hence no contradiction...

Of course it does. You created a straw man. That is not the rule as I pointed out. p1 is not everything that exists has a cause. It is everything THAT BEGINS to exist has a cause. You changed the premise to create a contradiction that isn't there if you use the real p1. Straw man fallacy...

That is not p1...... everything has a cause. P1 everything that “BEGINS” to exist has a cause. If the universe is eternal (like it was perceived to be for thousands of years) it would have no cause. The universe just is or just was. It always existed. It was the first cause. So 150 years...

Wiploc, You don’t get to have it both ways……You don’t get to reason that god begun to exist as an objection to p1 and THEN turn around and shut me down from responding to that objection……. by reasoning that the KCA doesn’t say anything about God therefore I'm off topic. Your objection was...

1) As stated the focus is the two Vilenkin papers thus not FTA. 2) What is p2 to the KCA? Why wouldn't the quotes above support p2? That's like asking how a visible burned out foundation and remains supports the idea that the house burned down?

Please allow me this brief attempt to clarify why it matters to the KCA what God we are arguing for. I did not offer the KCA to reason that your version of god exists. The KCA is an argument that argues to a specific God, that I have overtly and repeatedly characterized for you. The one that...

I’m clearly and purposefully not claiming that at all. I fully recognize this is not a scientific, physical definition. It is purely philosophical and metaphysical. Science is limited to the natural physical universe. The cause of the universe would have to be from beyond nature and be...

Is that your attempt at humor? Because….That is more than what you asked for and now you want to move the goal posts. The field goal is still easy. Only about 5 yards further than the easy extra point you were asking for. Beginning to end………………BGV “Many inflating spacetimes are likely to...

Oh I missed one...... Well… Let’s investigate…..abaddon see’s something he has never seen before and implies that we should all just ignore that part of the definition……… because…...for fun he made up…..that someone just simply added it to the dictionary for no real reason. Talk about...

The one you presented is not in conflict with the theistic model I provided. You don’t even know the theology there. Hint; I’m not omniscient and neither are you, thus we need time to think sequentially. Think about it. Why would an omniscient God need to think sequentially? You presented a...

First…….. Hold on. That was not my fault. I gave you a theistic argument upon your request and I was fairly defending it. I did not anticipate that in the course of your opposition that you would turn course and instead oppose the basic truism of theism instead of the KCA. By basic truism...