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    Does religion make people more moral?

    Or if you aren't sure what you believe in, I don't think I need to worry about it, as I don't see that it conflicts with anything I said about naturalism.
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    Does religion make people more moral?

    So imagine that you could reset the day, and play things over again. But I don't mean like replaying a video. I mean reset it to the start of a "live" event. Would you make all the same choices, do exactly the same things, every time? Would that fit with what you mean by free will? Or could...
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    Does religion make people more moral?

    Wiploc, to be sure I understand you correctly, you are saying you believe you have libertarian free will? Or you are saying you believe you have free will of a compatibilist type?
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    NRA to America - 'Fuck you! This shooting is your fault!'

    None of that appeared to deal specifically with a school situation. More guns can equal more crime in general, without it applying to every situation. Neither is "concealed carry" anything like an exact equivalent for a specific location being known to have people armed for self defence. As...
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    Europe submits voluntarily

    And you were using anecdotal evidence from one case. "Online, she discovered that there was a mosque near her home. When Faisal looked it up, though, he learned that the mosque’s steering committee had posted a statement disavowing the Islamic State. He dissuaded her from going, saying it was a...
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    Europe submits voluntarily

    I don't think this is a criminal matter really. Fighting for the enemy is not a "crime", although it may be on the books as such. They are simply an enemy in war, to be dealt with as an enemy. And no, they don't get a POW camp, because there is no reciprocation, and because it's impossible to...
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    Europe submits voluntarily

    That radicals may operate outside of mosques, doesn't mean they can't also operate inside of mosques. Isis recruitment moves from online networks to British mosques https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/05/isis-recruitment-moves-to-radical-network-and-mosques Networks of radicals are...
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    'Cannibal' killer Austin Harrouff, 19, was wearing a 'Make America Great Again' Trump hat when he stormed off and 'murdered random couple'

    Firstly, merely wearing a MAGA hat isn't proof of you being a conservative. He could easily have been a Trump supporter but who knows. Secondly, this case looks like a crazy person rather than anyone motivated by political ideology. I mean, political ideology could always be a factor in the...
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    To all the "Good Liberals": A Rant for our Times.

    In my experience, liberals often don't like the idea of regular people deciding things by vote, because they may vote the wrong way, and not do what the "enlightened" liberals think should be done. The whole idea that democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner also...
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    Does religion make people more moral?

    Christianity, although one particular theistic religion, isn't theism, so I'm not going to worry about this issue. Knowing possible worlds isn't the same thing as being able to activate any possible world. The doctrine of Molinism maybe comes close to what you are thinking about, but even then...
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    Neo-Nazi speech shows they wanted violence

    It's a stupid statement to deny the obvious that it's a form of political violence. You are just in fantasy land to deny it-- if you turn up to physically stop someone else's event, it's a form of political violence. You can pretend anything you like. But it is a form of political violence...
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    Neo-Nazi speech shows they wanted violence

    Weren't you supporting violence before: ?
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    Neo-Nazi speech shows they wanted violence

    Yes, Nazis were historically very violent. Thing is, is that Communists/the left wing, were often historically very violent also. Quote: The Antifa (English: /ænˈtiːfə/ or /ˈæntiˌfɑː/)[1] movement is a conglomeration of autonomous, self-styled anti-fascist groups in the United...
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    Neo-Nazi speech shows they wanted violence

    If you are on a public street I'm not sure what the law would be. But as a matter of principle, no, they shouldn't be doing that. If left wingers don't like a conservative speech, (for example), then they should set up their own speech event for a week later (or whatever) to try to respond to...
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    Neo-Nazi speech shows they wanted violence

    I would say that some sports are violent (not that basketball is that violent of course) but it's consensual violence, so doesn't really count. If you ran up to someone randomly in the street, and did a basketball style blocking move, you *might* cross the line into assault. If you don't...
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    Neo-Nazi speech shows they wanted violence

    Well I can just say that it *is* political violence to that. Your attempt to deflect responsibility for violence from some on the other side is duly noted. My position is that likely *both* sides were responsible for violence, whereas some people apparently want to ignore the violence coming...
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    Does religion make people more moral?

    Things like point 1 above, or the lack of any ultimate accountability under naturalism, (so bad people may often enough benefit from being bad), I take to be solid facts in difference between the worldviews. Point 2 about free will and moral responsibility, is a lot murkier. You can't strictly...
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    Does religion make people more moral?

    Firstly, I'm not claiming all atheists will spiral into despair over the threat of moral nihilism. Perhaps the average atheist doesn't worry about it at all, and just gets on pretty much the same as anyone else. That's a distinct issue from whether the naturalistic worldview is not such a good...
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    Europe submits voluntarily

    I already mentioned that you don't actually need to create "two grades of citizenship" to do what I was suggesting; but let me pick you up on this point. The issue with South Africa, is that they gave a massive advantage to people that weren't indigenous. It's not automatically the same thing...
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    Europe submits voluntarily

    No one has been prosecuted for treason that I'm aware of, and you may not necessarily have evidence for any particular person's behaviour in a war zone. (As distinct from having the evidence that they joined the group.) But that's completely different of course. If you are hanging people for...
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