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I disagree that science doesn't detect "any god". There are many high speed science guys that believe in some thing more. What scientist, and indeed many others, don't detect or agree with is some of the traits assigned to a god. I find it funny that some atheist don't like how they were...

For me it is about descriptors that match observation. We are imbedded in the system. Whatever we have, it seems that the system has more of. "Alive" seems to match best. "Not alive" is clearly less reliable in that is doesn't match the system better than alive. "God", is the more complex...

Its comes down to traits of people. List the traits of a Christian fundamentalist. Predict how that type of person would express atheism. Is there a personality type defined by experts that represent those personality types without a belief associated with it? The mistake that many of us...

Atheist priest eh. If that don't beat all. List the traits of a fundy think type theist. Predict how an atheist would sound with those traits. I bet a hard core atheist would, from a distance, sound exactly the same. The belief in something more matches observation better than the reverse...

Exactly. We are part of something more. That's what the observations show. "Why would I worship?", "We shouldn't argue with other atheists.", "Don't talk about it like that because theist can use it.", "That doesn't get us anywhere.", "It muddies the waters." "I am only talking about ...

Very true, I would change it a tad to people are emotional. Using the scientific method as the back drop, I list the traits of what I think "theist" do. I then take those traits and predict what an atheist with those traits might sound like. Then, do I see that playing out. "in-between"...

Your fist paragraph is spot on. That's why I don't blame religion nor am I afraid of it. Now people, I am afraid of people. I don't see one trait of man that is caused by religion. I see everything in religion caused by man. Any institution of man that gets too big tends to tread on people...

Science in its simplest form. Compare what we know to something we do not know and see what gives. AKA Einstein. "Alive" seems to fit the best to me when we compare classifications we use to the system around us. But that is if we are really trying the best we can with what we have. lol, that...

To your statement about there being something more. For me, I am not sure how we claim anything but there is something more. “More” here meaning a human for me. What that may be is the question. I see no evidence of "Miracles" as religious people use the word. There is no magic suspension...

For me, jesus is an ok focal point so long as its not taken literal. As soon as we state "Jesus is the only way!" we have deviated from his message. But that's just me, a internet hack.

For me, asking if "hidden means the same as no god" is theology. In this case, its some atheist theology and based on what people want. That really isn't my thing. I mean I am ok with an emotional attachment to god or no god so long long as it stays in its lane. For me, it is about describing...

peoples morals are people morals. Good people have healthy morals. Broken people have un healthy morals. For me, people are people and will act just like people. A statement of belief about god (atheist/theist) is a powerful motivator. To me its like a PED or medical help. Its needed by the...

If I follow, and that is in no way a certainty, that's why I tend to shy away from using logical fallacies. People that use them don't really know how this works to me. If x then y. Well, I put purple unicorns in there for x. They fart rainbows. I like colored arts that smell nice. How...

How about we describe how the universe works to the best of our abilities first. Basically, form a belief off of observations. Then form a relative reliability list of our beliefs? which ones are more or less likely? and openly discuss using all information available. Where does your table...

For me, jesus is in the image of the periodic table. To me, the PT is like a still picture. "I and the father are one", some 17 fields and 4 forces (so far). Its a representation of a series of events. But hey, I have to remember that I and my group are the only real "hole-ly" ones so...

The only problem is that it was tuned. The test tube was set up. To be clear, I do not believe a god thing "made us".

I mean the word virus ... as a metaphor ... OK. I call them strings. Like a subroutine. Atheist/theist are human, thus subject to all the human traits we see. To me, "We have the real truth" is a big one. The problem in both groups is that some have been mislead into thinking "for team...

Its all about intentions for me. If a Christian approaches questioning honestly, openly, and intentions are just to do the best we can with what we have to help each other? I would follow them before an faith based atheist that shouts everybody down with "evil god", delusional", "weak minded"...

I get that, I think. lol, one of my two brains cells anyway. Properties are the key to me also. I look at the properties and see if they match what most people see and experience. Only fundy think types do all or nothing. All evil/loving god type statements. The simulation line of logic may...

back to my list for me what matches observation the best ... clearly something more is the most reliable for belief in a belief forum. Make up whatever we want in a political forum seems to the norm ( I suggest that is more of a planned strike than truly seeking answers more often than not...