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Don2 (Don1 Revised)

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Dr. Michelle Herren, a pediatric anesthesiologist, landed in hot water on Wednesday after the Denver Health Medical Center got wind of a remark she had posted from her personal Facebook account in response to a post containing a photograph of the first lady.

“Monkey face and poor ebonic English!!! There! I feel better and am still not racist!!! Just calling it like it is!” Dr. Herren wrote.
Denver Health said on Wednesday that it had stripped Dr. Herren of her access to patients pending an investigation, and on Friday announced that the two parties “mutually agreed that Dr. Herren will voluntarily resign her employment from Denver Health after a ten year career of providing care to its patients.”

In the interim, University of Colorado officials said they planned to cut ties as well with Dr. Herren, who holds a non-paid faculty appointment.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/3/denver-institutions-cut-ties-doctor-who-called-mic/
 
I have a question.


Years ago I knocked doors for the Democratic Party. Some people, who belonged to a political party I will not name, told me to stop this or they would complain to my employer and say they don't shop where Democrat volunteers work. I asked my employer about it and he said he could fire me for it if it did hurt his business. I went ahead and finished my doorknocking because I made a promise and had to keep it. My word is my word. I had one guy actually go down there and raise a big stink to my boss about it and he stormed out after giving me a lecture about the virtues of conservatism. My boss, the owner said he was the only one who complained and business wasn't showing any signs my activities were affecting it, and the election was just a few days away and I door knocked what I was asked and promised to do and did no more.

This could go other ways. Let's say you are talking religion to someone away from work and you are doing it on your own time. Let's say you are Church of Christ and tell someone you believe they will be lost to hell because they are Baptist. And a bunch of Baptist get mad and won't trade where you work because you made them mad saying they were lost. And your employer tries to get rid of you.

A black man is head of the NAACP local chapter and a black man dies in police custody. He is leading/helping the NAACP to put pressure on the police to do an inquiry into possible wrongdoing on the part of the apprehending officers. A lot of local folks get mad and think you should leave the police alone. He is quitely told he needs to go work some place else because customers won't shop where he works.

My question is this. Is there any real and practical way the legal authorites could pass a law protecting people from retribution from their employers for what they do on their own time as long as that activity is itself legal? I know any one can pass a law saying "You can't dismiss people because they are using their right of free speech" or "The law now requires employers to recognize the rights of free speech of their employees when they are away from work" but could it be passed and actually have teeth to protect the workers?

The first and third cases actually happened. The second was a hypothetical. However, I could easily see it happening. I've heard that a few places where Jehovah Witnesses predominate if you leave their church the local JW's will not go where you work to put pressure on you to come back.
 
I have a question.


Years ago I knocked doors for the Democratic Party. Some people, who belonged to a political party I will not name, told me to stop this or they would complain to my employer and say they don't shop where Democrat volunteers work. I asked my employer about it and he said he could fire me for it if it did hurt his business. I went ahead and finished my doorknocking because I made a promise and had to keep it. My word is my word. I had one guy actually go down there and raise a big stink to my boss about it and he stormed out after giving me a lecture about the virtues of conservatism. My boss, the owner said he was the only one who complained and business wasn't showing any signs my activities were affecting it, and the election was just a few days away and I door knocked what I was asked and promised to do and did no more.

This could go other ways. Let's say you are talking religion to someone away from work and you are doing it on your own time. Let's say you are Church of Christ and tell someone you believe they will be lost to hell because they are Baptist. And a bunch of Baptist get mad and won't trade where you work because you made them mad saying they were lost. And your employer tries to get rid of the CoC person.

A black man is head of the NAACP local chapter and a black man dies in police custody. He is leading/helping the NAACP to put pressure on the police to do an inquiry into possible wrongdoing on the part of the apprehending officers. A lot of local folks get mad and think you should leave the police alone. He is quitely told he needs to go work some place else because customers won't shop where he works.

My question is this. Is there any real and practical way the legal authorites could pass a law protecting people from retribution from their employers for what they do on their own time as long as that activity is itself legal? I know any one can pass a law saying "You can't dismiss people because they are using their right of free speech" or "The law now requires employers to recognize the rights of free speech of their employees when they are away from work" but could it be passed and actually have teeth to protect the workers?

The first and third cases actually happened. The second was a hypothetical. However, I could easily see it happening.

In the UK recent laws passed in 2013 allow for this for all staff, and not those who have been employed for 2 1/2 years and more.

http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=4572

I am sure a lawyer in the USA (for a fee) could have also taken action against the person who reported you to your boss if you had been fired.
 
I have a question.


Years ago I knocked doors for the Democratic Party. Some people, who belonged to a political party I will not name, told me to stop this or they would complain to my employer and say they don't shop where Democrat volunteers work. I asked my employer about it and he said he could fire me for it if it did hurt his business. I went ahead and finished my doorknocking because I made a promise and had to keep it. My word is my word. I had one guy actually go down there and raise a big stink to my boss about it and he stormed out after giving me a lecture about the virtues of conservatism. My boss, the owner said he was the only one who complained and business wasn't showing any signs my activities were affecting it, and the election was just a few days away and I door knocked what I was asked and promised to do and did no more.

This could go other ways. Let's say you are talking religion to someone away from work and you are doing it on your own time. Let's say you are Church of Christ and tell someone you believe they will be lost to hell because they are Baptist. And a bunch of Baptist get mad and won't trade where you work because you made them mad saying they were lost. And your employer tries to get rid of you.

A black man is head of the NAACP local chapter and a black man dies in police custody. He is leading/helping the NAACP to put pressure on the police to do an inquiry into possible wrongdoing on the part of the apprehending officers. A lot of local folks get mad and think you should leave the police alone. He is quitely told he needs to go work some place else because customers won't shop where he works.

My question is this. Is there any real and practical way the legal authorites could pass a law protecting people from retribution from their employers for what they do on their own time as long as that activity is itself legal? I know any one can pass a law saying "You can't dismiss people because they are using their right of free speech" or "The law now requires employers to recognize the rights of free speech of their employees when they are away from work" but could it be passed and actually have teeth to protect the workers?

The first and third cases actually happened. The second was a hypothetical. However, I could easily see it happening. I've heard that a few places where Jehovah Witnesses predominate if you leave their church the local JW's will not go where you work to put pressure on you to come back.

It depends on the state http://www.ncsl.org/documents/employ/off-dutyconductdiscrimination.pdf
 
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