Blogging Through Richard Carrier’s new book “The Obsolete Paradigm of a Historical Jesus (2025)”

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(Part 1) Blogging Through Richard Carrier’s new book “The Obsolete Paradigm of a Historical Jesus (2025)”

 

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Here are the rest of the posts. Interesting book:

(Part 2) Blogging Through Richard Carrier’s new book “The Obsolete Paradigm of a Historical Jesus (2025)” ​

(Part 3) Blogging Through Richard Carrier’s new book “The Obsolete Paradigm of a Historical Jesus (2025)” ​

(Part 4) Blogging Through Richard Carrier’s new book “The Obsolete Paradigm of a Historical Jesus (2025)” ​

(Part 5) Blogging Through Richard Carrier’s new book “The Obsolete Paradigm of a Historical Jesus (2025)”​

(Part 6) Blogging Through Richard Carrier’s new book “The Obsolete Paradigm of a Historical Jesus (2025)”​

(Part 7) Blogging Through Richard Carrier’s new book “The Obsolete Paradigm of a Historical Jesus (2025)” – Hermeneutics/Deconstruction and Triangulation: Did Jesus Exist?​

 

[Swammerdami]

Tacitus tells us there were "Chrestians/Christians" in Rome during the time of Nero. (Nero died in 68 AD.)

Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular.

There are two points of vocabulary in the passage. First, Tacitus may have used the word "Chrestians" (Chrestianos) for Christians, but then speaks of "Christ" (Christus) as the origin of that name. Second, he calls Pilate a "procurator", even though other sources indicate that he had the title "prefect". Scholars have proposed various hypotheses to explain these peculiarities. The scholarly consensus is that Tacitus's reference to the execution of Jesus by Pontius Pilate is both authentic, and of historical value as an independent Roman source.
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Tacitus provides non-Christian confirmation of the crucifixion of Jesus [et cetera]

I've read neither Carrier nor the Blog. In Carrier's fiction did someone (perhaps the Illuminati) insert this reference after Tacitus' time to the surviving copies of his book?

 

[Swammerdami]

Tacitus tells us there were "Chrestians/Christians" in Rome during the time of Nero. (Nero died in 68 AD.)

Tacitus was about 13 years old when Nero died. Not old enough to understand any intricacies of Nero's reign, but there were many slightly older who could have served as his first-hand informants.

Contrast this with Jerome of Stridon, whose contradictory and hearsay writings provide one confused passage apparently used as a major morsel for the mythicist conspiracy theory. Jerome was born about 350 years after Saul of Tarsus was born. Three Hundred and Fifty Years.

Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular.

Does this sound like a passage a conspiratorial Christian might have inserted into Tacitus' Annals to further advance a Jesus hoax?