How does this not disqualify a candidate?

[marc]

Ok, so it is Trump's campaign manager saying it, so he can disavow anything the guy says. But really

The vice presidential pick will also be part of the process of proving he’s ready for the White House, Manafort said.

“He needs an experienced person to do the part of the job he doesn’t want to do. He seems himself more as the chairman of the board, than even the CEO, let alone the COO.”

“There is a long list of who that person could be,” Manafort added, “and every one of them has major problems.”

The campaign probably won’t choose a woman or a member of a minority group, he said. “In fact, that would be viewed as pandering, I think.”

Huff post

Running for president, but parts of the job he doesn't want to do, so will just have someone else do it? Then would he actually be the president, or just some figurehead?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

There are so many things that 'disqualify' Trump from being President.

Makes me think of Sen. Frankens' "Why Not Me" book where he is elected President, but botches his first speech and then goes all comatose.

 

[Rhea]

he said that!?

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Ok, so it is Trump's campaign manager saying it, so he can disavow anything the guy says. But really

The vice presidential pick will also be part of the process of proving he’s ready for the White House, Manafort said.

“He needs an experienced person to do the part of the job he doesn’t want to do. He seems himself more as the chairman of the board, than even the CEO, let alone the COO.”

“There is a long list of who that person could be,” Manafort added, “and every one of them has major problems.”

The campaign probably won’t choose a woman or a member of a minority group, he said. “In fact, that would be viewed as pandering, I think.”

Huff post

Running for president, but parts of the job he doesn't want to do, so will just have someone else do it? Then would he actually be the president, or just some figurehead?

Remember Geo. W. Bush?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

he said that!?

Yeah. That is usually something that is said via a paraphrase, not straight out.

He needs an experienced person to do the part of the job he doesn’t want to do. He seems himself more as the chairman of the board, than even the CEO, let alone the COO.

Elect me President, I won't do anything, but elect me President!

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Ok, so it is Trump's campaign manager saying it, so he can disavow anything the guy says. But really


Huff post

Running for president, but parts of the job he doesn't want to do, so will just have someone else do it? Then would he actually be the president, or just some figurehead?

Remember Geo. W. Bush?

We don't remember Dick Cheney straight up saying that W didn't plan on doing a lot of things.

 

[dismal]

Ok, so it is Trump's campaign manager saying it, so he can disavow anything the guy says. But really

The vice presidential pick will also be part of the process of proving he’s ready for the White House, Manafort said.

“He needs an experienced person to do the part of the job he doesn’t want to do. He seems himself more as the chairman of the board, than even the CEO, let alone the COO.”

“There is a long list of who that person could be,” Manafort added, “and every one of them has major problems.”

The campaign probably won’t choose a woman or a member of a minority group, he said. “In fact, that would be viewed as pandering, I think.”

Huff post

Running for president, but parts of the job he doesn't want to do, so will just have someone else do it? Then would he actually be the president, or just some figurehead?

I'm not sure what you problem is here. Leadership of a large organization is almost entirely about delegation. The comments to worry about are when you get people like Obama saying they know more about policy than their policy guys and are better speech writers than their speech writers.

“I think that I’m a better speechwriter than my speechwriters,” Mr. Obama told Patrick Gaspard, his political director, at the start of the 2008 campaign, according to The New Yorker. “I know more about policies on any particular issue than my policy directors. And I’ll tell you right now that I’m going to think I’m a better political director than my political director.”

If I had an a large organization leader say something like this to me I'd take it as a sign I was dealing with a naive, narcissistic asshat.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Elect me President, I won't do anything, but elect me President!

Well, Reagan kept trying to present himself as the guy who picked the right people to do the right jobs AND being surprised by what those people went out and did (Iran-Contra for example) in his name/his authority.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Elect me President, I won't do anything, but elect me President!

Well, Reagan kept trying to present himself as the guy who picked the right people to do the right jobs AND being surprised by what those people went out and did (Iran-Contra for example) in his name/his authority.

Reagan and George W Bush... oh yeah... the quality Management Presidents.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Running for president, but parts of the job he doesn't want to do, so will just have someone else do it? Then would he actually be the president, or just some figurehead?

I suspect that for many Trump supporters, as long as he doesn't pick a woman or a black to do the job, he'll have fulfilled his mandate.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Running for president, but parts of the job he doesn't want to do, so will just have someone else do it? Then would he actually be the president, or just some figurehead?

I suspect that for many Trump supporters, as long as he doesn't pick a woman or a black to do the job, he'll have fulfilled his mandate.

Probably name some Chinese national for the job, ship half the cabinet overseas.

 

[laughing dog]

Before I got more worried than I already am about a Trump Presidency, I would like to know what parts of the job he doesn't want to do.

 

[Horatio Parker]

I think the statement is meant to reassure people that he'll have a competent staff.

Couched in business-ese, since we all know businesspeople are best qualified to run countries.

 

[marc]

Actually, now that I think about it, this could be a good thing. Trump would be 'president' but he wouldn't actually do anything. Someone else would actually be making all the decisions, someone less likely to be a self absorbed, ignorant, petty child.


Ya know, in stories many characters that want to 'take over the world' seem to think it would end with them sitting on a throne, surrounded by servants, treasure, and probably a harem. They never seem to realize that ruling the world would mean actually having to run the world. Then they would have to deal with unemployment, natural disasters, border disputes, etc.. This was pointed out in the classic graphic novel Emperor Doom. Trump is starting to fit that pattern. He wants to run things, but he doesn't actually want to run things, just be the one everyone has to obey. The world would actually be run by someone who hopefully actually knows how to get things done, and has to keep the Leader distracted so they don't actually mess stuff up.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Napoleon's greatness lies in the fact that knew this and seriously tried to fix things. Trump is more of a Zaphod Beeblebrox .

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Before I got more worried than I already am about a Trump Presidency, I would like to know what parts of the job he doesn't want to do.

Trump needs to hire an assistant to determine that first.

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Actually, now that I think about it, this could be a good thing. Trump would be 'president' but he wouldn't actually do anything. Someone else would actually be making all the decisions, someone less likely to be a self absorbed, ignorant, petty child.

The trouble is, not knowing how to do any of these things generally disqualifies him of being able to assign people to the posts to do those things well.

Think of Reagan: Central America and Iran Contra
Think of W: Afghanistan and Iraq

 

[Keith&Co.]

They never seem to realize that ruling the world would mean actually having to run the world.

In one of the Star Trek books, someone declared war on the Federation. Kirk was sent to deal with it, realized that the guy was no threat, just some tinpot dictator wanting attention. Kirk then surrendered in the name of the Federation, Starfleet, all the populated and colonized planets, space stations, orbital habitats, research vessels and long-term-travel combines.
Then presented the new dictator of the Galaxy with all the issues currently being investigated, monitored, resolved, rescued, reconstructed, redistributed, researched, invested, invigorated, diplomatically negotiated and forcefully shot to a standstill and asked, "What do you want to do about this?"

After the fourth 'Um....' Kirk suggested that maybe the Supreme Leader could let the Federation and Starfleet continue to investigate and resolve allthese issues for him... "Yeah, let's do that."
And the universe continues on happily under the rule of this guy they never heard of who gets an update from Starfleet once a year that's mostly, "We're still working that thing. And that other thing. And the rest of the things. "
And he says, "Okay."


What if we just TOLD Trump that we decided, today, that he was President. We'll just .... pick someone else to run the country for him? And take the blame for failures, and stuff? And deal with the press, and Congress, and the Supreme Court, and the Department of Defense...?

And Trump could wear a T-shirt that says "I'm in CHARGE!"

 

[Derec]

Running for president, but parts of the job he doesn't want to do, so will just have someone else do it? Then would he actually be the president, or just some figurehead?

Isn't it obvious? He wants to steal a spaceship.

I just wonder where he is hiding that extra head ...

 

[Rhea]

I'm not sure what you problem is here. Leadership of a large organization is almost entirely about delegation. The comments to worry about are when you get people like Obama saying they know more about policy than their policy guys and are better speech writers than their speech writers.

I don't agree with you. I am more worried about a guy who says he wants to be president but not do the job than I am about a guy who says he has studied a lot of shit.

 

[dismal]

I'm not sure what you problem is here. Leadership of a large organization is almost entirely about delegation. The comments to worry about are when you get people like Obama saying they know more about policy than their policy guys and are better speech writers than their speech writers.

I don't agree with you. I am more worried about a guy who says he wants to be president but not do the job than I am about a guy who says he has studied a lot of shit.

What is "the job"?

Pretend you are the messiah who will deliver unto the people all of their hopes and dreams?

I don't subscribe to the cult of presidential personality. They are a more or less average person setting the tone for a large organization.