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Mass Incarceration and the not so black and white of it.

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from a review of the book Caught: The Prison State and the Lockdown of American Politics

Bill Clinton recently admitted, “We basically took a shotgun to a problem that needed a .22.”

That’s easy for an ex-president to say. Politicians still hoping to be elected have a somewhat harder time proposing solutions. Voters love a tough-on-crime candidate, and they are quick to punish any step toward loosening sentencing requirements or reducing the prison population. Indeed, they want our penal system to keep ratcheting up the incarceration rate. Rather than prefer rational punishment for all, voters aware of unjust incarceration seem to prefer harsher, more callous treatment for all—a “leveling down,” in Gottschalk’s phrase, whereby even whites caught up in the justice system are subject to treatment once reserved for despised outcasts.

Even without leveling down, the practice of mass incarceration looks dispiritingly robust. For it to persist, it need only keep afflicting the weak and poor and feeding the greedy maws of corporations that run private prisons (and those of other amoral bureaucracies). For it to die would take a society-wide shift in values and empathy. Gottschalk doubts that concern over the ballooning costs of mass incarceration will ever be enough to motivate real, lasting change. Since such a movement would come from budgetary concerns and not moral ones, it would reduce prison rates only if it could generate savings. Unprincipled motivations are dangerous: If costs could somehow be driven down by increasing brutality and dehumanization, we might see these rise as our budgets fall. At a minimum, real change would involve making people understand the needless suffering wrought by mass incarceration; moving away from joyfully punitive sentencing in favor of punishments that reflect, to use an old- fashioned expression, the common good; and restoring the civil rights of convicts who have done their time.

In other words, we’d need a reversal of the trends of the past 30-odd years of American life. We like prison experience to be harsh. Anyone who doubts this is welcome to Google don’t drop the soap to see the levity with which prison rape is treated. Indeed, we’ve countenanced, even cheered, surveillance and cross-examination of poor Americans outside prison, in the form of extraordinary barriers to obtaining social assistance, mandatory drug testing, and employers’ “behavioral standards” on and off the job, the violation of which gives cause for termination and disqualifies laid-off workers from unemployment benefits. Gottschalk would like to see change that would return dignity and decency to criminal offenders, but further “leveling down” appears to be the popular preference.

Americans tend to consider themselves a virtuous and generous people, and not a nation of grinning sadists. So why the urge to brutalize criminals? Critics on the left (Gottschalk among them) like to point to America’s embrace of unforgiving capitalism, but neoliberalism dominates the entire West, and no other country has mass incarceration like ours. The example of other developed countries, where economic failure and even prosecution are seen as misfortunes that can befall otherwise decent people, is instructive. There, neither social-welfare beneficiaries nor inmates are seen as parasitic failures, but as folks like us.

Please click the link above. The stats are quite enlightening. Cause for thought.
 
And this is the crux of the argument against 'justice', and for correction. It's at the core of every argument I make in favor of corrections for cops rather than outright career Cruxifiction, against prisons, and against death as an imposed penalty except when other options are rejected by the problem-person.

'Justice' is just a disguise we wrap around revenge when the problem applies to us.
 
Am I reading that right (?); there is 1 person in prison for every 137 that isn't?

Yep. And that's down from 1 in 99.

The USA has more people in prison than any other nation on Earth. Per-capita or total. China has fewer people in prison than we do.

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I don't think it's just about governing based on fear. It's also incarcerating for profit. A prison which is run on a for-profit basis and is paid per prisoner has zero incentive to reduce recidivism.
 
from the OP link
America’s incarceration crisis is the stuff of grave, vague moral concern for many in the educated elite. We know something is rotten, on an epic scale; we know that something ought to be done; and we’ve internalized a few broad explanations of the phenomenon that are compelling, sensible, and wrong, in whole or in part.

The scale and contours of the problem are, by now, familiar: The American incarceration rate reached one in 99 civilians a few years ago and has now receded to one in 137. If you loaded U.S. prisons with the entire population of Philadelphia, there would still be enough bunk space for the entire population of Detroit. If you opened the prison gates today, enough men and women would stream out, trading one uniform for another, to completely staff every McDonald’s and Starbucks in the country, as well as the entire U.S. Army, Marine Corps, and Postal Service.
 
But it's OK, because they're mostly black men, aka "thugs."

And they're in for really dangerous stuff, like selling weed.
Okay, new rule. By powers self-imbued upon myself, I hereby declare all prisoners released for weed related offenses except white violent offenders. That should resolve some issues. (Sorry white people)

Now, this benefit comes at a price. Starting now, any black parent who has a child that grows up and sells weed will have 5% of their social security checks withheld per child (not to exceed 15%). That should also resolve some issues. (sorry black parents)
 
But it's OK, because they're mostly black men, aka "thugs."

And they're in for really dangerous stuff, like selling weed.
Okay, new rule. By powers self-imbued upon myself, I hereby declare all prisoners released for weed related offenses except white violent offenders. That should resolve some issues. (Sorry white people)

Now, this benefit comes at a price. Starting now, any black parent who has a child that grows up and sells weed will have 5% of their social security checks withheld per child (not to exceed 15%). That should also resolve some issues. (sorry black parents)

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Okay, new rule. By powers self-imbued upon myself, I hereby declare all prisoners released for weed related offenses except white violent offenders. That should resolve some issues. (Sorry white people)

Now, this benefit comes at a price. Starting now, any black parent who has a child that grows up and sells weed will have 5% of their social security checks withheld per child (not to exceed 15%). That should also resolve some issues. (sorry black parents)

<snip>

"No, man, it was like, totally fuckin' easy!"

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Okay, new rule. By powers self-imbued upon myself, I hereby declare all prisoners released for weed related offenses except white violent offenders. That should resolve some issues. (Sorry white people)

Now, this benefit comes at a price. Starting now, any black parent who has a child that grows up and sells weed will have 5% of their social security checks withheld per child (not to exceed 15%). That should also resolve some issues. (sorry black parents)

<snip>
I know, I know, the proceeds from the sale of weed would far outweigh their parents loss, but dang, give me credit for trying.
 
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The first few posts in this thread express quite accurately my own sentiments on the issue. Weed is legal where I live so the following posts just seem odd to me. Who cares about weed? The legality or illegality of it is just a racist tool for cops in places where it's illegal isn't it? I mean, I remember refer madness.
 
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