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Ministry of Propaganda Succeeding in Destroying Free Press

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THE BIG IDEA: Donald Trump celebrated Sunday that his campaign to delegitimize the free press is working.

The president touted a Politico-Morning Consult poll published last week that found 46 percent of registered voters believe major news organizations fabricate stories about him. Just 37 percent of Americans think the mainstream media does not invent stories, while the rest are undecided. More than 3 in 4 Republicans believe reporters make up stories about Trump.

“It is finally sinking through,” the president tweeted.

The first rule of propaganda is that if you repeat something enough times people will start to believe it, no matter how false.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...d49b130fb045cba000926/?utm_term=.7ddeb44c680e

I suppose it could be worse:
"36 percent of Americans [could] think the mainstream media does not invent stories"

What does this eventually lead to? Tyranny?
 
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The dumbing down continues...

Another gem from the article: "Only 26 percent of respondents could name the three branches of government, down from 38 percent in 2011."
 
But what does that answer really mean?

I would vote yes to this question--because Faux Noise makes up things.
 
Media only has itself to blame. The days of Walter Cronkite and Peter Jennings are long gone.

 
Media only has itself to blame. The days of Walter Cronkite and Peter Jennings are long gone.

Ironic. Complaining about a news organization having poor credibility by lying about what a news organization is saying.
 
Media only has itself to blame. The days of Walter Cronkite and Peter Jennings are long gone.

Tabloid cables news is hardly the only thing that exists. There is also printed news which is really the only actual journalism left in America, that and NPR.
 
THE BIG IDEA: Donald Trump celebrated Sunday that his campaign to delegitimize the free press is working.

The president touted a Politico-Morning Consult poll published last week that found 46 percent of registered voters believe major news organizations fabricate stories about him. Just 37 percent of Americans think the mainstream media does not invent stories, while the rest are undecided. More than 3 in 4 Republicans believe reporters make up stories about Trump.

“It is finally sinking through,” the president tweeted.

The first rule of propaganda is that if you repeat something enough times people will start to believe it, no matter how false.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...d49b130fb045cba000926/?utm_term=.7ddeb44c680e

I suppose it could be worse:
"36 percent of Americans [could] think the mainstream media does not invent stories"

What does this eventually lead to? Tyranny?
Well yeah. Look, it might be over, as we are already sliding down the actual slippery slope. The Republican Party is getting transformed before our eyes by Steve fucking Bannon, a man who has no business running a political party. But wait... he isn't the head of the GOP... well, you sure fooled me! Two Senators have given up already.

Trump throws out lie after lie after lie and it seems like the story of 'the boy who cried wolf' has an M Night Shyamalan ending, because it is the people that call out the lying boy that are turned on and bannished... leaving the rest of the town to get devoured by the wolves. And then our resident brown-shirts just sing along the pretty side of the narrative...(or what I'll call the suited up version) 'oh but the media...' They align themselves with the Pragers and Medveds who have sold out to tyranny and will likely either be destroyed by it, or they will embrace it. I really hope people like trausti will be happy with it.

I heard a Bannon apologist on NPR today. That is where we are now. Unless conservatives, actual fucking conservatives wake the fuck up, they'll be wondering if they are next.
 
Media only has itself to blame. The days of Walter Cronkite and Peter Jennings are long gone.



The problem with what is said on the clip isn't that "CNN lies about it being illegal to look at the Wikileaks," the newsreader said that it is illegal to possess the stolen emails, which is correct. The problem is that he went on to say said that is legal for the media to possess them. This is not correct.

But there is no reason to believe that CNN is intentionally lying about this point, in the way that Fox News and Breitbart intentionally lie about, well almost everything. People make mistakes. It isn't even settled what it means to possess an email, since it is an electronic entity, not an actual document. But the emails are a product of an illegal act and shouldn't be distributed. But whether it is illegal to read them is questionable, as you infer.

Loren is correct, if you consider Fox News to be a member of the media, (and not what they appear to be to a lot of us, just a source of pro-wealth and pro-corporate palliatives and outright propaganda for conservatives), you have to say that some in the media make up stories about Trump. But it is Fox News that is making up fake news in support of Trump.

It goes back to the idea that reality has a liberal bias, that conservatives need a constant stream of fake news to convince themselves that all's right with the status quo and that no changes are needed. 99% of what the legitimate news organizations report on are instances where there is something wrong with the status quo, instances where conservatives are wrong.

This is the success of neoliberalism and movement conservatism, that they have brought into question the gravitas of the media, of science and of the government, in short, of facts and reality. It could only have happened among conservatives with their natural aversion to facts and reality. Couple this with the fact that authoritarian regimes have always relied on, that they can increase the numbers of conservatives, people who are afraid of change, by scare tactics, by spreading fear.
 
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The difference between fake news and real news is not that real news never says something false, it's that real news will correct the record but fake news will not.
 
It would depend on what is legally possession. If you've read an email online, you've downloaded it, meaning you possess it, even if that possession requires advanced skills to realize.
 
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