Numerology?

[excreationist]

When I started university I was a fan of a kind of numerology at https://www.kabalarians.com/

It converts names into a series of 3 numbers involving 9 kinds of personality elements.... it is often very specific...

e.g.
https://www.kabalarians.com/name-meanings/names/male/Ivan.htm

Your name of Ivan creates individuality, independence, self-confidence, initiative, and an inclination to physical activity.

You are not inclined to merge your opinions and viewpoints with others, to accept compromise, or to work in a subservient position against your will.
......
In your close associations and family life, there is little demonstration of sentiment, appreciation, sympathy, or encouragement.

vs
https://www.kabalarians.com/name-meanings/names/male/John.htm

The name of John has made you serious-minded, responsible, and stable.

You love the security of a home and family, you are fond of children, and, as a parent you would be fair and understanding.
.....
You would be effective in a career or in volunteer work where you are handling people and serving in a humanitarian way.

While you are honest and responsible, one weakness that is paramount in your life is your lack of self-confidence and initiative, which causes you to put things off and avoid facing issues.

Note these descriptions aren't based on intuition or surveys - they are purely based on numerology.

In the past I thought it generally worked very well but eventually I rejected it. Though they say that if the profile doesn't fit it could be because you also need to take into account your last name, nick names and date of birth.

BTW there are two main types of numerology - chaldean and pythagorean.

Also this is how you reduce it to a number from 1 to 9...

e.g. start with 946.... = 9+4+6 = 19 = 1+9 = 10 = 1+0 = 1....

I thought that name numerology is compatible with the idea of a simulation - it could be a shortcut for how personalities are approximated rather than having to always simulate people on the level of neurons. I mean in every game these days personalities are described with a series of numbers.



On a simulation/matrix reddit they recommended this:
ARCHITECT OF THE UNIVERSE DECODED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yPBYcZS4IU&t=943s
The video has 441 upvotes and 10 downvotes even though its numerology is ridiculous

e.g. (about PlayStations and the game of life - 15:43)
TRIANGLE + CIRCLE + X + SQUARE = 64 (Chaldean)

He calls it an "X" (eks) but it officially is called a "cross". But if he had called it a cross the numerology wouldn't work.

He says 64 = Gd element = God....

The video goes for an hour and is a waste of time though it is kind of entertaining and he is a good speaker.



I came up with a kind of numerology myself: https://linenum.com/ It involves counting the lines in shapes and symbols....

It attempts to not be arbitrary since numerology using base 10 and the English alphabet is arbitrary.....

 

[excreationist]

Sort of related to numerology is sacred geometry (also similar to https://linenum.com/) - and the Golden Ratio...

From: https://www.mathsisfun.com/geometry/pentagram.html


This is objective evidence that the star/pentagram is special....

 

[untermensche]

Deciding that mathematical ratios makes something special is arbitrary nothingness.

No reason for anyone to think a shape with consistent ratios is special. It really just shows symmetries.

Numerology is looking at meaningless mathematical comparisons and inventing meaning.

 

[Swammerdami]

I also like to derive prognostications by manipulating words and numbers. (It's considerably less messy than reading alligator entrails.)

However my preferred numerology is to find sentences which have unique solutions when letters are mapped to digits and the words are treated as decimal numbers.

I'll demonstrate with two simple examples. In each case there is exactly one way to assign digits to the letters and have a correct arithmetic sum. Doesn't this tell us something about the TFTer I've selected?

I've chosen Angry Floof (the Artful One) as my target: Despite her name, she seems kind enough to forgive this demonstration.

ANGRY + FLOOF = ARTFUL
ANGRY - FLOOF = ONE

Show

ANGRY + FLOOF = ARTFUL
19607 + 85228 = 104835

ANGRY - FLOOF = ONE
40271 - 39663 = 608

 

[excreationist]

Deciding that mathematical ratios makes something special is arbitrary nothingness.

No reason for anyone to think a shape with consistent ratios is special. It really just shows symmetries.

Are you aware that "the golden ratio" is said to be very special:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio

 

[Swammerdami]

As a practiced algorithm designer, I almost clicked to make the same point as excreationist.

Are you aware that "the golden ratio" is said to be very special:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio

I didn't click your link. Does it mention that The Golden Ratio is sometimes spoken of, informally, as "the most irrational number!" ?

There are at least 3 or 4 computer algorithms which have NOTHING to do with geometry, but for which multiplication or division by the Golden Ratio is useful! (In some cases the arithmetic is done to reduce the risk of resonance with a small fraction. For a different reason, the maximizing search over a black-box function known to have monotonically decreasing derivative is optimal when Golden Ratio slicing is used.)

Fibonacci numbers are closely related to the Ratio, and are sometimes used as the basis for a simple Huffman code.

 

[excreationist]

Are you aware that "the golden ratio" is said to be very special:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio

I didn't click your link. Does it mention that The Golden Ratio is sometimes spoken of, informally, as "the most irrational number!" ?

The Wikipedia link is good. My linenum.com link doesn't cover the golden ratio.

BTW it also seems like the golden ratio is involved in black hole formulas:
http://www.goldennumber.net/quantum-gravity-reality-golden-ratio/amp/

 

[excreationist]

......Does it mention that The Golden Ratio is sometimes spoken of, informally, as "the most irrational number!" ?

That's another very special thing.... I found a Mathologer video:

 

[excreationist]

I also like to derive prognostications by manipulating words and numbers. (It's considerably less messy than reading alligator entrails.)

However my preferred numerology is to find sentences which have unique solutions when letters are mapped to digits and the words are treated as decimal numbers.

I'll demonstrate with two simple examples. In each case there is exactly one way to assign digits to the letters and have a correct arithmetic sum. Doesn't this tell us something about the TFTer I've selected?

I've chosen Angry Floof (the Artful One) as my target: Despite her name, she seems kind enough to forgive this demonstration.

ANGRY + FLOOF = ARTFUL
ANGRY - FLOOF = ONE

Show

ANGRY + FLOOF = ARTFUL
19607 + 85228 = 104835

ANGRY - FLOOF = ONE
40271 - 39663 = 608

The letters don't seem to have consistent values globally so it doesn't seem to be a very good numerology system.. though having big numbers makes connections like that a lot more difficult....

 

[Swammerdami]

I also like to derive prognostications by manipulating words and numbers. (It's considerably less messy than reading alligator entrails.)

However my preferred numerology is to find sentences which have unique solutions when letters are mapped to digits and the words are treated as decimal numbers.

I'll demonstrate with two simple examples. In each case there is exactly one way to assign digits to the letters and have a correct arithmetic sum. Doesn't this tell us something about the TFTer I've selected?

I've chosen Angry Floof (the Artful One) as my target: Despite her name, she seems kind enough to forgive this demonstration.

ANGRY + FLOOF = ARTFUL
ANGRY - FLOOF = ONE

Show

ANGRY + FLOOF = ARTFUL
19607 + 85228 = 104835

ANGRY - FLOOF = ONE
40271 - 39663 = 608

The letters don't seem to have consistent values globally so it doesn't seem to be a very good numerology system.. though having big numbers makes connections like that a lot more difficult....

Wait a minute!
Are you discussing the plausibility of the numerology scheme? (i.e. convincing the gullible?), or
Are you discussing the validity of the scheme? (do not most of us agree this is pseudo-science?) or
Are you referring to some other criteria?

I find my prognostication system VERY delightful and flexible. For one thing, valid (unique) word-arithmetic solutions are, as you imply, not so easy to come by: I was slightly astounded to get 'Artful One' from 'Angry Floof'. I suspect that Ms. Floof herself might find my prognostication more appealing and serendipitous than one based on a rote weighting system.

 

[excreationist]

The letters don't seem to have consistent values globally so it doesn't seem to be a very good numerology system.. though having big numbers makes connections like that a lot more difficult....

Wait a minute!
Are you discussing the plausibility of the numerology scheme? (i.e. convincing the gullible?), or
Are you discussing the validity of the scheme? (do not most of us agree this is pseudo-science?) or
Are you referring to some other criteria?

I find my prognostication system VERY delightful and flexible. For one thing, valid (unique) word-arithmetic solutions are, as you imply, not so easy to come by: I was slightly astounded to get 'Artful One' from 'Angry Floof'. I suspect that Ms. Floof herself might find my prognostication more appealing and serendipitous than one based on a rote weighting system.

I think for a proper numerology scheme it has to involve consistent values and then you pick and choose with perhaps many possibilities to find one that fits....

BTW the "Decode Your Reality" guy, who is usually 97% upvoted, uses a combination of Chaldean numerology, the Periodic Table (which he calls "Alchemy"), different sets of Tarot Cards, playing cards mapped to dates in the year, astrology, etc...

Ridiculous playing card and planets connections:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYv422PWWWo&t=3778s

e.g. when talking about Pi he goes into Lizard People and uses "They Live" and the recent Superman movie's reptilian suit appearance....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnUhUIN0paQ&t=1354s

BTW here's the most amazing series of connections I've ever come across....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphamagic_square



If that is possible it suggests amazing numerological/pseudoscience connections are also possible....

BTW I find anagrams more amazing than your numerology example....

I was especially impressed by this example from the Simpsons
https://blog.puzzlenation.com/2013/04/23/puzzles-in-pop-culture-the-simpsons-revisited/
“Great crimes kill holy sage”
which becomes:
“Regally, the rock gem is Lisa.”
then:
“It’s really Maggie, Sherlock.”

BTW in anagrams normal numerology would give the same overall answer (but not your numerology)

 

[steve_bank]

I am a fan of phrenology, I think that is the term. . You tell a lot about someone from the bumps on their head.

 

[excreationist]

I am a fan of phrenology, I think that is the term. . You tell a lot about someone from the bumps on their head.

The guy in the Pi movie was a fan too.... but combined it with an electric drill....