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Origin of the universe

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a proposal...
the universe comes from the same place as virtual particles.
accelerated expanding universe is observable.
incorporating cosmos imaginary time with big bang cosmology the solution may be at hand...
manifold of cosmos,
I read hyperspace but I can't remember the finer details and points.
so from this manifold of cosmos virtual particles emerge, the space time they occupy is traded back and forth from the cosmos manifold.
rewind the expansion to particle of infinite density and infinite mass might not be necessary.
that's where I'd like to start, these are kind of new musings to me.
 
is this proposal boring? too far "out there"?
maybe I should have linked to some information about virtual particles in the OP?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_particle
In physics, a virtual particle is a transient quantum fluctuation that exhibits some of the characteristics of an ordinary particle, while having its existence limited by the uncertainty principle. The concept of virtual particles arises in perturbation theory of quantum field theory where interactions between ordinary particles are described in terms of exchanges of virtual particles. A process involving virtual particles can be described by a schematic representation known as a Feynman diagram, in which virtual particles are represented by internal lines.[1][2]

Virtual particles do not necessarily carry the same mass as the corresponding real particle, although they always conserve energy and momentum. The closer its characteristics come to those of ordinary particles, the longer the virtual particle exists. They are important in the physics of many processes, including particle scattering and Casimir forces. In quantum field theory, forces—such as the electromagnetic repulsion or attraction between two charges—can be thought of as due to the exchange of virtual photons between the charges. Virtual photons are the exchange particle for the electromagnetic interaction.

The term is somewhat loose and vaguely defined, in that it refers to the view that the world is made up of "real particles". It is not. "Real particles" are better understood to be excitations of the underlying quantum fields. Virtual particles are also excitations of the underlying fields, but are "temporary" in the sense that they appear in calculations of interactions, but never as asymptotic states or indices to the scattering matrix. The accuracy and use of virtual particles in calculations is firmly established, but as they cannot be detected in experiments, deciding how to precisely describe them is a topic of debate
 
The idea that the entire universe is "just" a quantum fluctuation is not novel, IIUC.
You linked to a write-up on virtual particles, but this was not the confusing item on your list.

What do you mean by "cosmos imaginary time"? Does this refer to the i multiplier used with time-like dimensions?

Was it not Grigori Perelman who famously proved that the so-called 3-sphere is the only 3-D manifold satisfying certain conditions? Don't most (non-string) physicists use the 3-sphere for their model of (time-less) space's topology? (Recall that the 3-sphere is isomorphic to the surface of the 4-ball.)
 
A Newtonian object like the moon is the sum of probabilities of a large number of particle's. Macro reality seen from QM is an illusion of stability. Looking at it from electronics and noise with a large scale Newtonian object quantum fluctuations would be 'down in the noise' and are not detectable in our macro reality.
 
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