Professor killed for opposing burkha

[hinduwoman]

http://www.thedailystar.net/frontpage/lalon-loving-ru-teacher-killed-50543

AKM Shafiul Islam, 48, a teacher of sociology, died after an emergency surgery around 4:45pm at the Rajshahi Medical College Hospital.

Brain damage and profuse bleeding from multiple stabbings in the neck and head led to his death, said RMCH Director Brig Gen Nasir Uddin.
A gang of four attacked him at the entrance of Bihas residential area around 3:00pm while he was returning home by his motorbike, said Alamgir Hossain, OC of Motihar police station.
In a late development, an Islamist group calling itself Mujahideen fi Sabilillah has claimed the responsibility for Shafiul's murder in a post on its Facebook page Ansar Al Islam Bangladesh-2.
“Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Our Mujahideens today have murdered a murtad [atheist] who had prohibited female students from wearing burka [veil] in classrooms,” says the first ever post of the newly created community page of Facebook.
Given three hours after the murder, the post also warned "atheists" in general of similar consequences.
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The professor was a follower of Lalon and used to invite Baul singers to his house every Monday. He belonged to a pro-Awami League teachers' panel, according to his colleagues.
Talking to The Daily Star, his son Soumin Shahrid Javin, a journalism student at Dhaka University, said: “My father did not have any enemies; he was a very good man. He was progressive-minded but religious fanatics on the campus and around the locality were always angry with him."
“Jamaat-Shibir men threatened him with dire consequences two or three years ago for his mystic ways of life,” he added.

 

[ksen]

Why are these groups still allowed to post on facebook?

I have a friend who was banned for three days from facebook just for jokingly saying, "Kill all atheists."

 

[Tom Sawyer]

It does seem strange that they're left up. Maybe Facebook bases its policies on local regualtions and Pakistan thinks it's cool to kill off atheists.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It does seem strange that they're left up. Maybe Facebook bases its policies on local regualtions and Pakistan thinks it's cool to kill off atheists.

More likely the local people don't want to suffer the same fate for removing the page.

 

[ksen]

It does seem strange that they're left up. Maybe Facebook bases its policies on local regualtions and Pakistan thinks it's cool to kill off atheists.

More likely the local people don't want to suffer the same fate for removing the page.

Local people don't ban people from Facebook. Facebook does that.

 

[Bomb#20]

It does seem strange that they're left up. Maybe Facebook bases its policies on local regualtions and Bangladesh thinks it's cool to kill off atheists.

FIFY.

 

[aeebee50]

Sad to see hatred is still rampant.

 

[ZiprHead]

While I don't want to excuse the professor's murder, he banned burkhas from his classrooms. That is not right.

 

[Metaphor]

While I don't want to excuse the professor's murder, he banned burkhas from his classrooms. That is not right.

Why isn't it right? A professor usually has the right to control some aspects of her classroom.

At Australian universities, I cannot imagine a classroom functioning with people wearing face coverings. For starters, attendance is taken and you can hardly verify the identity of someone wearing a burka or niqab.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

I never saw attendance taken in a university class. I can understand a ban on burkhas during exams and the like, but who cares what someone's wearing while listening to a lecture?

 

[untermensche]

This is all about modern men trying to maintain a level of control over women.

Something men have done for all of human history.

Religion is only the excuse for it.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I never saw attendance taken in a university class. I can understand a ban on burkhas during exams and the like, but who cares what someone's wearing while listening to a lecture?

Lecture, you're right. Teachers do more than just stand there and talk, though.

 

[hinduwoman]

The teacher would presumably like to watch the body language of students to see how they are responding to the course; not to mention that with a burkha you cannot tell if it is actually the same female each day in class.

 

[Metaphor]

I never saw attendance taken in a university class. I can understand a ban on burkhas during exams and the like, but who cares what someone's wearing while listening to a lecture?

Not lectures, but classes like labs. Many of my courses had a requirement of attending 80% of labs.

But even if they did not, how awkward would it make the class environment to have someone in a burqa or niqab answering or asking questions or interacting in any normal way whatever?

 

[Tom Sawyer]

I never saw attendance taken in a university class. I can understand a ban on burkhas during exams and the like, but who cares what someone's wearing while listening to a lecture?

Not lectures, but classes like labs. Many of my courses had a requirement of attending 80% of labs.

But even if they did not, how awkward would it make the class environment to have someone in a burqa or niqab answering or asking questions or interacting in any normal way whatever?

Labs would be like exams. You have to ensure that it's the actual person doing it. For the classes, the awkwardness of other students sounds like the kind of thing that would be the other students' problem and not the problem of someone deciding what he or she wants to wear, so there shouldn't be a requirement for her to give a shit about that person's awkwardness or alter her behaviour or dress in any way to deal with it. If a conservative Muslim man would find it awkward interacting with a woman in a t-shirt, I wouldn't find that to be a reason to ban women in t-shirts from the class either and don't see a difference between the two situations.

 

[Metaphor]

Not lectures, but classes like labs. Many of my courses had a requirement of attending 80% of labs.

But even if they did not, how awkward would it make the class environment to have someone in a burqa or niqab answering or asking questions or interacting in any normal way whatever?

Labs would be like exams. You have to ensure that it's the actual person doing it. For the classes, the awkwardness of other students sounds like the kind of thing that would be the other students' problem and not the problem of someone deciding what he or she wants to wear, so there shouldn't be a requirement for her to give a shit about that person's awkwardness or alter her behaviour or dress in any way to deal with it. If a conservative Muslim man would find it awkward interacting with a woman in a t-shirt, I wouldn't find that to be a reason to ban women in t-shirts from the class either and don't see a difference between the two situations.

You don't see a difference between a burqa and a t-shirt, and you think negative reaction to each is equally valid?

I would not allow anyone to cover their face in any class I tutored. Ninjas belong in ninja movies.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

You don't see a difference between a burqa and a t-shirt, and you think negative reaction to each is equally valid?

I would not allow anyone to cover their face in any class I tutored. Ninjas belong in ninja movies.

Why would you need to see their face? This isn't high school, it's university. If they want to skip class, sleep through class, send a maidservant in wearing a disguise to take notes for them in class or anything else, they are adults paying to attend the class and can do so as they please, so long as they don't impact other students in any kind of legitimate way. The only time their identity actually matters is when they are doing exams and the like where they are being tested on the course material. When it was Halloween at my university, some students wore their costimes to class, complete with masks, and it didn't affect the instructors job in any way, shape or form - even when they were dressed up as a ninja.

 

[braces_for_impact]

What about how uncomfortable I am talking to someone in a beekeeper outfit?

 

[ksen]

Just douse her in smoke first.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

What about how uncomfortable I am talking to someone in a beekeeper outfit?

Well, if you'd stop bringing your bees into class with you, the rest of the students wouldn't feel the need to wear beekeeper outfits to prevent them from being stung and it wouldn't be an issue.

I mean ... seriously, dude ... exactly how many times do people have to have this same conversation with you? It's actually not all that complex.