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Derec
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I thought he was a convert.
Probably because they are participating in the war against the Islamic State. You know, the outfit Obama says is not islamic.
This comes only two days after other two Candian soldiers were attacked by another Islamic convert (with a car) and one of them died.
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We may never know. At this point, it is all conjecture.
Derec
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Yes I guess him being an Islamic convert and his passport having been pulled because he wanted to join IS is just a big coincidence.
Maybe Canada should let them go overseas and then pulled their passport then. I.e. let them go away but not let them back in. Easier to bomb them over there.
Or maybe just as they are on a layover in Moscow, a la Snowden.
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Whether it is coincidence or not remains to be seen. Now, if you have any actual relevant first hand knowledge about the shooter's intentions or state of mind, that is a different matter.
Is it hard to type while hiding underneath the bed?Maybe Canada should let them go overseas and then pulled their passport then. I.e. let them go away but not let them back in. Easier to bomb them over there.
Or maybe just as they are on a layover in Moscow, a la Snowden.
What do you mean we won't know? The guys go on ISIS sites, are on watch lists and denied travel for their ISIS sympathies, etc, etc, etc and then they start killing soldiers after the ISIS leaders call for people to start doing that. There's not two potential reasons for their actions.
They were not pissed off that the WTO just ruled in Canada's favour in a trade dispute with the US and wanted to send a message about not messing with America. They were not annoyed that the quality of Agents of SHIELD isn't living up to their expectations and wanted to give the writers some plot ideas. This wasn't a way to express their opinion that the upcoming changes to Canada's prostitution laws won't properly protect sex workers. We know exactly why they did it.
Obama supports the war on ISIS so it does not piss muslims off.
Maybe this guy was upset about the failure of Canadian NHL teams to win the cup these last couple decades or got a bad Tim-bit.
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I think we were looking for a consensus agreement. Kind of like an election. So you don't need to put in your two cents because it won't make a difference on reaching a consensus if Canada typically fights the right wars.
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It is usually helpful to respond to the actual content of a post.
Is this guy for sure linked to Isis, and if so is this the first terrorist attack on Canada originating from outside Canada. I know we had the FLQ (domestic terrorism) but I can't think of any cases of foreign terrorists attacking us.
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There is no indication he was connected with ISIS. It is being alleged that he took the calling to violence from ISIS, which is a different matter. Apparently he didn't enjoy the freedoms available to all people in Canada, including Muslims, and felt Canada would be better with less freedoms.
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The context of Tom Sawyer's post was meant to indicate that there is sufficient evidence already available to suggest why he did what he did.
Dude, there's no such thing as a bad Timbit.
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Honey dip, I believe they were, are terrible. Otherwise a true statement.
Derec
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What's that, some weird Canadian thing like poutine?
Think of the best thing you've ever tasted, multiply it by infinity and then imagine eating that while Scarlett Johannsen gives you a blowjob and you'll come close to understanding the glory that is a Timbit.
Yum.
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It's a munchkin (donut hole). 'ortons doughnuts and Timbits are quantitatively 10x better than Dunkin Donuts and 7481x better than the garbage sold at Krispy Kreme.
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That is why it is a serious offense to be caught eating them while driving. Extremely dangerous!
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From the bits and pieces we are getting via the media, it appears that the shooter was a typical "lone wolf" case. An individual already pre disposed to respond to jihad calls from ISIS. Meaning not a member of an organized cell planted by ISIS in Canada.
Mind you that ISIS exercises an effective influence on a variety of people located in the West. In such manner, 2 teen girls from Colorado were intercepted in Germany by German authorities while they were transiting on their way to Turkey with the intention to join ISIS. Now returned to their homes and parents in Colorado. In France, 2 teen girls succeeded in flying to Turkey to cross over to Syria where they are now married to ISIS combatants. Interestingly, these girls had hooked up with an 18 year old Chechen immigrant. They were both in love with him and followed him to Syria. While he was killed during a bombing raid, they were recruited as wives to ISIS combatants.
The problem with "lone wolf" attacks is that it becomes very difficult to anticipate when and how. If Canadian Intel and US Intel can certainly "flag" individuals who have communicated their sympathies for ISIS (the social media being a fertile ground for their monitoring), they certainly cannot anticipate accurately who will be the most probable target and where. For the time being, the media reported that the Canadian Intel had noted an increase in "chattering" pointing to favored targets such as military personnel and law enforcement. We are not speaking here of high amplitude mass casualties targets such as 9/11. Rather series of isolated attacks by "lone wolves".
This is where FBI Units such as profilers become very handy.
Mind you that ISIS exercises an effective influence on a variety of people located in the West. In such manner, 2 teen girls from Colorado were intercepted in Germany by German authorities while they were transiting on their way to Turkey with the intention to join ISIS. Now returned to their homes and parents in Colorado. In France, 2 teen girls succeeded in flying to Turkey to cross over to Syria where they are now married to ISIS combatants. Interestingly, these girls had hooked up with an 18 year old Chechen immigrant. They were both in love with him and followed him to Syria. While he was killed during a bombing raid, they were recruited as wives to ISIS combatants.
The problem with "lone wolf" attacks is that it becomes very difficult to anticipate when and how. If Canadian Intel and US Intel can certainly "flag" individuals who have communicated their sympathies for ISIS (the social media being a fertile ground for their monitoring), they certainly cannot anticipate accurately who will be the most probable target and where. For the time being, the media reported that the Canadian Intel had noted an increase in "chattering" pointing to favored targets such as military personnel and law enforcement. We are not speaking here of high amplitude mass casualties targets such as 9/11. Rather series of isolated attacks by "lone wolves".
This is where FBI Units such as profilers become very handy.