Angra Mainyu
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a. Bert forgot about the kids and chose to go to Vegas instead. Does he deserve punishment?
b. Boltzmann Bert is psychologically and physically indistinguishable from Bert except for location, but lives on a distant Boltzmann planet in Boltzmann planetary system (which are like Boltzmann brains but stable, etc., let's say the universe is big enough for that to happen many times at least). When he chose to go to Vegas, the whole system was only 1 day old.
c. Boltzmann Jack the Ripper 2 lives on another such planet. He's psychologically, etc., like Jack the Ripper was one day after he killed his last victim (we assume he was still alive), but Jack the Ripper 2 already came into existence with that brain and the memories of committing those crimes, and the bodies were all already dead. His life continues on just as that of Jack the Ripper, so there are no further victims.
In the case of Boltzmann Bert and Bert, the comparison is between the two situations one day after they were told that the kids had been left alone, and at times in which their respective states are indistinguishable as specified above (e.g, we're not comparing Bert 1 day after the event and Boltzmann Bert 10 years after the respective event!). Similarly, we consider Jack the Ripper 2 one year after he came into existence, and a similar mental and physical state of Jack the ripper (assuming Jack the Ripper was alive a year after he killed his last victim).
Note: this is a poll only about what they deserve, not about what other people should, will and/or would do based on the info available to them, or about what the law says, or about other stuff.
So, what's your take on this?
b. Boltzmann Bert is psychologically and physically indistinguishable from Bert except for location, but lives on a distant Boltzmann planet in Boltzmann planetary system (which are like Boltzmann brains but stable, etc., let's say the universe is big enough for that to happen many times at least). When he chose to go to Vegas, the whole system was only 1 day old.
c. Boltzmann Jack the Ripper 2 lives on another such planet. He's psychologically, etc., like Jack the Ripper was one day after he killed his last victim (we assume he was still alive), but Jack the Ripper 2 already came into existence with that brain and the memories of committing those crimes, and the bodies were all already dead. His life continues on just as that of Jack the Ripper, so there are no further victims.
In the case of Boltzmann Bert and Bert, the comparison is between the two situations one day after they were told that the kids had been left alone, and at times in which their respective states are indistinguishable as specified above (e.g, we're not comparing Bert 1 day after the event and Boltzmann Bert 10 years after the respective event!). Similarly, we consider Jack the Ripper 2 one year after he came into existence, and a similar mental and physical state of Jack the ripper (assuming Jack the Ripper was alive a year after he killed his last victim).
Note: this is a poll only about what they deserve, not about what other people should, will and/or would do based on the info available to them, or about what the law says, or about other stuff.
So, what's your take on this?