Jimmy Higgins
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So the Nation's Report (math link) came out... and it looks dire.
A sober look at the percentile scores is that the lowest scorers fell the most and are the drag on the national average. It is too early to tell if the top 75th percentile is a blip or not. The bottom 10th and 25th percentiles show a definite drop. The alt-right wants to get rid of public schools and go with charters. I was curious about the breakdown between Public and Public Charter Schools. The report notes that scores dropped in public non-charters. When you look at the numbers, you'll see that the public charters were steady between 2024 and 2019, at 138, while public schools dropped to 146. Wait what? Public charter schools are underperforming public schools by how much in math?!
The testing results seem to peak in 2013 and this year, they are near-ish 2005 levels. Blacks and Hispanics saw broad drops in scores across all achievement levels, where as Whites dropped in the lower levels which shifted the average. Schools in the Midwest and South saw broad drops across achievement, while the Northeast and West saw the low end drop, shifting the average. Girls dropped regardless of achievement level, where as boys dropped on the low end of achievement.
With the results returning to near 2005 levels, the question to ask is what is going on here? Investments into education are varied. One can't help but notice that bluer areas are seeing the low end drop where as red areas are seeing broader achievement reductions. And why are charter schools near constant? The peak in 2013 would be 8 years after the first assessment in 2005, which means those kids would have been in 4th grade and learning math a bit differently between 1st and 4th. Scores drop after that point. But any consideration of this would not explain a drop in reading, which again is impacting the lower achievement students (primarily low achievement black students). Again, the drops in the Midwest and South are telling, as the low end there dropped so far to skew the average.
Yeah, but does it?article said:
A sober look at the percentile scores is that the lowest scorers fell the most and are the drag on the national average. It is too early to tell if the top 75th percentile is a blip or not. The bottom 10th and 25th percentiles show a definite drop. The alt-right wants to get rid of public schools and go with charters. I was curious about the breakdown between Public and Public Charter Schools. The report notes that scores dropped in public non-charters. When you look at the numbers, you'll see that the public charters were steady between 2024 and 2019, at 138, while public schools dropped to 146. Wait what? Public charter schools are underperforming public schools by how much in math?!
The testing results seem to peak in 2013 and this year, they are near-ish 2005 levels. Blacks and Hispanics saw broad drops in scores across all achievement levels, where as Whites dropped in the lower levels which shifted the average. Schools in the Midwest and South saw broad drops across achievement, while the Northeast and West saw the low end drop, shifting the average. Girls dropped regardless of achievement level, where as boys dropped on the low end of achievement.
With the results returning to near 2005 levels, the question to ask is what is going on here? Investments into education are varied. One can't help but notice that bluer areas are seeing the low end drop where as red areas are seeing broader achievement reductions. And why are charter schools near constant? The peak in 2013 would be 8 years after the first assessment in 2005, which means those kids would have been in 4th grade and learning math a bit differently between 1st and 4th. Scores drop after that point. But any consideration of this would not explain a drop in reading, which again is impacting the lower achievement students (primarily low achievement black students). Again, the drops in the Midwest and South are telling, as the low end there dropped so far to skew the average.