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US Blacks losing religion slower than other Americans

lpetrich

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Young Black People Aren’t Abandoning Religion as Quickly as Other Millennials – Friendly Atheist, quoting results from Pew's 2014 study.

Percentage who describe themselves as...

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[tr]
[td]-[/td]
[td]Nnb Mil[/td]
[td]Blk Mil[/td]
[td]Older B[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Absolutely certain that God exists[/td]
[td]48[/td]
[td]75[/td]
[td]86[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Religion is very important to them[/td]
[td]38[/td]
[td]61[/td]
[td]81[/td]
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[tr]
[td]They pray daily[/td]
[td]39[/td]
[td]61[/td]
[td]78[/td]
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[tr]
[td]They attend religious services weekly or more[/td]
[td]25[/td]
[td]38[/td]
[td]50[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]NET highly religious[/td]
[td]39[/td]
[td]64[/td]
[td]83[/td]
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Some 86% black Millennials believe in Heaven, much like their elders.

From Mandisa Thomas, the President of Black Nonbelievers:
Even with the increasing numbers of Blacks who are coming out as atheist and challenging religion, this latest study proves how deeply ingrained religion is in our community. For those in the secular community who doubt why Black Nonbelievers exists, this is one of the reasons why.
 
Religion predominates in poor, and poorly educated communities, so in almost all cases you should see a tight correlation between religion and socio-economic status.
 
Blacks are not leaders - they are followers - a minority - they are going to abandon religion once the whites lose it. Imagine going thru slavery and reading about it in the Bible with God supporting such actions and just ignoring it. Imagine being discriminated all your life and then turning around and telling non-christians that they are going to hell, discriminated based on religion - the only explanation is if one has a follower mentality - not a leader mentality
 
Blacks are not leaders - they are followers - a minority - they are going to abandon religion once the whites lose it. Imagine going thru slavery and reading about it in the Bible with God supporting such actions and just ignoring it. Imagine being discriminated all your life and then turning around and telling non-christians that they are going to hell, discriminated based on religion - the only explanation is if one has a follower mentality - not a leader mentality
Racist.
 
These people were enslaved by people and they embraced the very same religion that talks about love and morals and then the preachers do nothing to stop the slavery. South American nations were colonized, the residents killed and abused and forced to give up their religions - and ah, thou shalt not kill and all that from people who indulged in lynchings that carried on until late last century. There is a reason why people like Muhammad Ali left this religion - it's a simple primitive idea - beg for mercy from this dictator and he will reward you with the easy good life or else!

The worst thing for me is blacks are far too comfortable with the idea of God separating non-Christians and dumping them into hell - division and discrimination based on skin color is wrong but fine with religious division and discrimination, but of course, they are on the other side of it
When did any African-American protest against such ideas?
 
Blacks are not leaders - they are followers - a minority - they are going to abandon religion once the whites lose it. Imagine going thru slavery and reading about it in the Bible with God supporting such actions and just ignoring it. Imagine being discriminated all your life and then turning around and telling non-christians that they are going to hell, discriminated based on religion - the only explanation is if one has a follower mentality - not a leader mentality

Wow... that's complete racism in a blatant way, You should hang your head in shame.

Obama was a follower? MLK?

My disgust at that post is hard to articulate.

Blacks hang on to religion because it gave them safe community in a horrible segregated dangerous world. No wonder the Green Book is making something off a comeback.
 
I have personally known hundreds of black people over the course of my adult life. They've been my patients, my coworkers and my friends. They are a very diverse group, some poor, others quite affluent, some uneducated, and some highly educated with advanced degrees. With very few exceptions, they were/are Christians. Imo, a good part of the reason that more black people cling to religion is because their churches are extremely important to them. Let's not forget that black churches were often used as centers to organize protests during the civil rights movements of the 60s and these days, some black churches are still used to help get out the vote. Black churches provide community and a respite from what is often a racist world.

I have told at least two very educated black professionals that I am an atheist. Their reactions were far more intense than most of the reactions that I get from most white people. One invited me to her church and tried to understand how a nurse that she liked and respected could possibly be an atheist. She sometimes told me she would pray for me. I usually took that with a sense of humor. The other one told me that he didn't believe me when I told him there was a black non believer group in Atlanta. He told me that right to my face. It seemed almost impossible for him to believe that "the brothers" ( his term not mine ) would abandon god. Both of those folks were health care professionals, one a PA and the other a hospice chaplain. I have black friends that are not as educated and I've always avoided discussing my atheism with them, but I often hear them speaking about their churches. I guess I want to avoid any conflict or negative feelings so I just stay silent when they speak of their beliefs. There is one very sweet woman who told me that if we pray, God will help us overcome Trump. I just gave her a hug and remained silent.

I think what some of you may not understand is that religion isn't just about holding on to certain mythological beliefs, it's about culture and community. I have only known a few black atheists. One of them, who I haven't seen in a few years, used to attend church with his wife. I don't know if this was to keep the peace in his family or because he enjoyed his wife''s community of friends. The other man is more of an agnostic, and his white wife is a very strong atheist. I've met a few other black atheists that are members of the Black Nonbelievers of Atlanta, a small group in a city that is majority black. Since I'm an atheist and not an anti-theist, I can understand and respect what the church offers the black community. Sure, there are some terrible black pastors that take advantage of people, but there are also some very decent ones that offer their congregations hope and community.

Anyway, that's just my own perception of the black church. I've only been in a few black churches for funerals, so there is probably more to it than I understand. I do remember attending a funeral for a former coworker who was murdered by her apparently disturbed grandson. I was very impressed by the service and by the way the family was able to openly grieve. I was impressed by the size of the crowd and by how the white attendees were warmly embraced. If black folks all lost their faith, what would there be to replace the community that they share with each other? That's something that we atheists rarely seem to understand.
 
Blacks are not leaders - they are followers - a minority - they are going to abandon religion once the whites lose it. Imagine going thru slavery and reading about it in the Bible with God supporting such actions and just ignoring it. Imagine being discriminated all your life and then turning around and telling non-christians that they are going to hell, discriminated based on religion - the only explanation is if one has a follower mentality - not a leader mentality
Racist.

Hey, I'm Slavic. The word "slave" comes from my ancestors because we were the most enslaved people the world knew. You may be not on to something.

When they emigrated from Europe to the U.S. their churches were their everything.
 
Wouldn't one expect religiosity to correspond with security? Don't secure people feel less need for God/religion?
 
Frederick Douglass- On Christianity

^Short and well worth the read.

I'm sure that the reason for black religiosity is because for many decades their churches were the only organizations they were allowed, and thus became the organs through which they worked most effectively to secure their rights and freedoms.
 
Wouldn't one expect religiosity to correspond with security? Don't secure people feel less need for God/religion?

Yes. The immigrants from which I came did everything at their churches, These churches were more like social service organizations. People would bring their clothes there to wash and cook meals there because they didn't have what they needed where they lived.
 
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