Jarhyn
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- Natural Philosophy, Game Theoretic Ethicist
And you want to gay away the trans or whatever. If you can't see the arbitrariness in your position from that, that's your issue.Yeah know, the "two-spirit," or Berdache, of some North American tribes had nothing to do with a person changing their sex. No society has confused the sexual binary, regardless of some mostly homosexual men taking on female responsibilities. And in Iran, there's no conflict between sexist groups and genderist groups. The mullahs just want to trans away the gay.Oleg, one anecdote does not a population survey make.Tell that to the Spartans.We should note that what made people "men" or "women" in many cultures prior to such nonsense was not the shape of the genital but on heuristics of social behavior, and they weren't treated as mutually exclusive.
The fact is, you're the one confusing yourself with "binary" when it's "multimodal with bimodal comorbidity groups".
I get that might be too hard to process with a highschool diploma or less, which many people lack.
For their edification "gender and sex is complicated, and you have no right or reason to know what their genitals look like. You have no problem with treating most people who ask to be treated 'as you would a woman' that way, without knowing what their genitals look like, so you should be comfortable treating them as such when their genitals don't look as you expect."
If it helps, you can absolutely justify treating a woman who is 7 foot tall and 250 lbs of muscle like you would anyone who is 7 feet tall and 250 lbs of muscle (with caution and care, and possibly a good deal of violence if that doesn't work in preventing injury or attack otherwise).
You can absolutely treat a woman who has very broad shoulders and an adams apple with the level of attraction that you would treat anyone who has broad shoulders and an adams apple.
You can absolutely treat a woman who is angry and threatening to punch you like anyone who is angry and threatening to punch you.
You can absolutely treat a woman with a 6 inch member and closed urethra with the level of attraction you might have for anyone with a 6 inch member and a closed urethra*.
Which is to say, you should respect them as people, treat them with the caution that befits their behavior and stature, and otherwise treat them with normal social acceptance, especially if they aren't interested in sex with you.
It's just rather socially considerate to not talk about other people's genitals.
*To be fair, attraction to and interest in such is a stereotypically straight condition, as the presence of a more peniform genital is a pornographic cue for many who identify as straight.
Likewise stereotypical gay people normally attracted to the more historically masculine tropes of the human body tend to be the primary consumers of the inverse tropes to those who identify as stereotypically straight: they consume more porn containing those who identify as "men" who have what they identify as "vaginas".
As such, if you're not attracted at least a little bit to futanari, you MIGHT be gay...