San Francisco launches Guaranteed Income for Transgender Individuals

[ZiprHead]

It would not be the same program. It certainly could not target its preferred clients without the framework of gender ideology.

What is gender ideology and how was it used to create this program?

I've already explained many of the beliefs and values of gender ideologists. But I doubt your enquiry is good faith, especially given your post #195

I don't want to know the beliefs and values of gender ideologists. I want to know what the ideology itself is.

 

[Metaphor]

More pedantic hair-splitting.

No, laughing dog. People refuting your false claims is not 'pedantry'. Your claim was nonsense, and I explained how it was nonsense.

The WIC program requires no reference to gender ideology and in fact was set up before gender ideology gained ascendance.

No one lied. Your pedantic hair-splitting is evidence of the paucity of your reasoning.

I am not going to bother replying further to your responses where you've accused me of pedantry. It is a signal you have no worthwhile rebuttal.

 

[TomC]

It would not be the same program. It certainly could not target its preferred clients without the framework of gender ideology.

What is gender ideology and how was it used to create this program?

I've already explained many of the beliefs and values of gender ideologists. But I doubt your enquiry is good faith, especially given your post #195

I don't want to know the beliefs and values of gender ideologists. I want to know what the ideology itself is.

That people are entitled to stuff because of their gender despite their sex. Like swimming in the women's division, the women's restroom at the mall, or taxpayer funded checks in San Francisco.
Tom

 

[ZiprHead]

My response, #195, to your post of "(mostly unexplained)" is entirely appropriate since transgenderism has had scientific explanations for many years.

 

[ZiprHead]

It would not be the same program. It certainly could not target its preferred clients without the framework of gender ideology.

What is gender ideology and how was it used to create this program?

I've already explained many of the beliefs and values of gender ideologists. But I doubt your enquiry is good faith, especially given your post #195

I don't want to know the beliefs and values of gender ideologists. I want to know what the ideology itself is.

That people are entitled to stuff because of their gender despite their sex. Like swimming in the women's division, the women's restroom at the mall, or taxpayer funded checks in San Francisco.
Tom

Can I get a source for this or is this just the beliefs and values of an anti-trans individual?

 

[TomC]

It would not be the same program. It certainly could not target its preferred clients without the framework of gender ideology.

What is gender ideology and how was it used to create this program?

I've already explained many of the beliefs and values of gender ideologists. But I doubt your enquiry is good faith, especially given your post #195

I don't want to know the beliefs and values of gender ideologists. I want to know what the ideology itself is.

That people are entitled to stuff because of their gender despite their sex. Like swimming in the women's division, the women's restroom at the mall, or taxpayer funded checks in San Francisco.
Tom

Can I get a source for this or is this just the beliefs and values of an anti-trans individual?

What?
Are you unaware that Lia Thomas "won" NCAA medals in the women's swimming division?

Tom

 

[Metaphor]

A woman in the UK who was assaulted by a transwoman was denied victim compensation because the woman did not use the transwoman's preferred pronouns in court.

The trans person who committed the assault was fined 330 pounds. It's not up to the criminal court to compensate the victim. That's done by the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority. Your story is bullcrap.

Please stop making false accusations. It is very unbecoming, especially for somebody in a position of power as you are.

UK Courts Ordered to Address ‘Transgender’ Defendants as the ‘Gender’ of their Choice

UK — London, England. In March 2019, a new edition of the Equal Treatment Bench Book (ETBB) 2018 was released. The revised edition states that the court should “recognise a person’s gen…

www.womenarehuman.com

However, in April 2018, prior to the new edition of the ETBB, a judged warned a female victim giving evidence that she should refer to her male attacker as “she”, because “(t)he defendant wished to be referred to as a woman”. The defendant, Tara Wolf (né Flik Wood) was found guilty of assaulting Maria Maclachlan and fined £150.

Judge Kenneth Grant refused to grant Ms Maclachlan any compensation, declaring, “It was notable that when I asked Ms Maclachlan to refer to Ms Wolf as ‘she’, she did so with bad grace – having asked her to do so she continued to refer to Ms Wolf as ‘he’ and ‘him'”.

Shout out for Maria MacLachlan's YouTube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/@PeakTrans

 

[Metaphor]

My response, #195, to your post of "(mostly unexplained)" is entirely appropriate since transgenderism has had scientific explanations for many years.

First, ZiprHead, if I were in your position, I would not use the word 'transgenderism', which is not accepted by the gender ideologists and could get you cancelled.

Second, I have no idea what you are carrying on about. What 'scientific explanation' of something have I denied?

 

[ZiprHead]

It would not be the same program. It certainly could not target its preferred clients without the framework of gender ideology.

What is gender ideology and how was it used to create this program?

I've already explained many of the beliefs and values of gender ideologists. But I doubt your enquiry is good faith, especially given your post #195

I don't want to know the beliefs and values of gender ideologists. I want to know what the ideology itself is.

That people are entitled to stuff because of their gender despite their sex. Like swimming in the women's division, the women's restroom at the mall, or taxpayer funded checks in San Francisco.
Tom

Can I get a source for this or is this just the beliefs and values of an anti-trans individual?

What?
Are you unaware that Lia Thomas "won" NCAA medals in the women's swimming division?

Tom

And she also lost to other women.

Now try answering the question asked.

 

[ZiprHead]

My response, #195, to your post of "(mostly unexplained)" is entirely appropriate since transgenderism has had scientific explanations for many years.

First, ZiprHead, if I were in your position, I would not use the word 'transgenderism', which is not accepted by the gender ideologists and could get you cancelled.

Second, I have no idea what you are carrying on about. What 'scientific explanation' of something have I denied?

What did you mean by "(mostly unexplained)" then?

 

[TomC]

Now try answering the question asked.

I did.
The answer to the question "What does trans ideology mean?" is "If someone identifies as trans they are entitled to stuff the rest of us aren't. Including victim status.".

Post #203.
It's right there.
Tom

 

[laughing dog]

Now try answering the question asked.

I did.
The answer to the question "What does trans ideology mean?" is "If someone identifies as trans they are entitled to stuff the rest of us aren't. Including victim status.".

Post #203.
It's right there.
Tom

You are correct - your opinion is right there. But your belief(s) about trans ideology are not trans ideology and more importantly, it is not an independent source.

 

[TomC]

Now try answering the question asked.

I did.
The answer to the question "What does trans ideology mean?" is "If someone identifies as trans they are entitled to stuff the rest of us aren't. Including victim status.".

Post #203.
It's right there.
Tom

You are correct - your opinion is right there. But your belief(s) about trans ideology are not trans ideology.

Then what is "trans ideology"?

What I see is the culture of entitlement and victimhood. I see that a lot. Not just trans folk, a lot.
Around here where I live, it's usually weight issues. "Nobody will hire a 400 pound person who dropped out of high school."

We Americans live largely in a culture of victimhood, entitlement, drugs, and guns. Trans people are cashing in.
Of course.
Tom

 

[ZiprHead]

A woman in the UK who was assaulted by a transwoman was denied victim compensation because the woman did not use the transwoman's preferred pronouns in court.

The trans person who committed the assault was fined 430 pounds. It's not up to the criminal court to compensate the victim. That's done by the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority. Your story is bullcrap.

Please stop making false accusations. It is very unbecoming, especially for somebody in a position of power as you are.

UK Courts Ordered to Address ‘Transgender’ Defendants as the ‘Gender’ of their Choice

UK — London, England. In March 2019, a new edition of the Equal Treatment Bench Book (ETBB) 2018 was released. The revised edition states that the court should “recognise a person’s gen…

www.womenarehuman.com

However, in April 2018, prior to the new edition of the ETBB, a judged warned a female victim giving evidence that she should refer to her male attacker as “she”, because “(t)he defendant wished to be referred to as a woman”. The defendant, Tara Wolf (né Flik Wood) was found guilty of assaulting Maria Maclachlan and fined £150.

Judge Kenneth Grant refused to grant Ms Maclachlan any compensation, declaring, “It was notable that when I asked Ms Maclachlan to refer to Ms Wolf as ‘she’, she did so with bad grace – having asked her to do so she continued to refer to Ms Wolf as ‘he’ and ‘him'”.

Shout out for Maria MacLachlan's YouTube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/@PeakTrans

Judges usually get pissed off at people who defy their orders in the court. The victim was not only defiant but also belligerent and disruptive. The victims supporters also participated in the belligerence and disruption in the courtroom. The judge said the victim could just refer the perp as "the defendant" but the victim refused to even comply with that.

While British criminal courts can provide compensation to victims they usually don't, leaving that up to the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority. The judge in this case also said the defendant caused "low harm" and had “low culpability”. There was also video evidence the victim committed violence on another trans person but that was not admitted into the trial.

And yes, there was a 150 pound fine. But also a 30 pound victim surcharge, and a 250 pound court cost imposed.

Nothing here was as cut and dried as you made it out to be.

 

[ZiprHead]

Now try answering the question asked.

I did.
The answer to the question "What does trans ideology mean?" is "If someone identifies as trans they are entitled to stuff the rest of us aren't. Including victim status.".

Post #203.
It's right there.
Tom

You are correct - your opinion is right there. But your belief(s) about trans ideology are not trans ideology.

Then what is "trans ideology"?

So you don't know what trans ideology is but you know you don't like it.

What I see is the culture of entitlement and victimhood. I see that a lot. Not just trans folk, a lot.
Around here where I live, it's usually weight issues. "Nobody will hire a 400 pound person who dropped out of high school."

We Americans live largely in a culture of victimhood, entitlement, drugs, and guns. Trans people are cashing in.
Of course.
Tom

Blah blah blah.

 

[Metaphor]

My response, #195, to your post of "(mostly unexplained)" is entirely appropriate since transgenderism has had scientific explanations for many years.

First, ZiprHead, if I were in your position, I would not use the word 'transgenderism', which is not accepted by the gender ideologists and could get you cancelled.

Second, I have no idea what you are carrying on about. What 'scientific explanation' of something have I denied?

What did you mean by "(mostly unexplained)" then?

I didn't mean anything by that; I didn't write that. I don't know what you meant by that.

 

[pood]

Now try answering the question asked.

I did.
The answer to the question "What does trans ideology mean?" is "If someone identifies as trans they are entitled to stuff the rest of us aren't. Including victim status.".

Post #203.
It's right there.
Tom

You are correct - your opinion is right there. But your belief(s) about trans ideology are not trans ideology.

Then what is "trans ideology"?

What I see is the culture of entitlement and victimhood. I see that a lot. Not just trans folk, a lot.
Around here where I live, it's usually weight issues. "Nobody will hire a 400 pound person who dropped out of high school."

We Americans live largely in a culture of victimhood, entitlement, drugs, and guns. Trans people are cashing in.
Of course.
Tom

Trans people are hounded, mocked and attacked both verbally and sometimes physically; they are at higher risk for suicide; they are marginalized. Many live in fear of being themselves, especially in the more benighted areas of the country. You know, just like it used to be for gay people. They are victims. And so now we have one city in America offering a tiny stipend to them and according to you trans people are cashing in on victimhood. How pathetic.

What is it about people like you and metaphor who like to stomp on the underdog?

 

[Metaphor]

A woman in the UK who was assaulted by a transwoman was denied victim compensation because the woman did not use the transwoman's preferred pronouns in court.

The trans person who committed the assault was fined 430 pounds. It's not up to the criminal court to compensate the victim. That's done by the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority. Your story is bullcrap.

Please stop making false accusations. It is very unbecoming, especially for somebody in a position of power as you are.

UK Courts Ordered to Address ‘Transgender’ Defendants as the ‘Gender’ of their Choice

UK — London, England. In March 2019, a new edition of the Equal Treatment Bench Book (ETBB) 2018 was released. The revised edition states that the court should “recognise a person’s gen…

www.womenarehuman.com

However, in April 2018, prior to the new edition of the ETBB, a judged warned a female victim giving evidence that she should refer to her male attacker as “she”, because “(t)he defendant wished to be referred to as a woman”. The defendant, Tara Wolf (né Flik Wood) was found guilty of assaulting Maria Maclachlan and fined £150.

Judge Kenneth Grant refused to grant Ms Maclachlan any compensation, declaring, “It was notable that when I asked Ms Maclachlan to refer to Ms Wolf as ‘she’, she did so with bad grace – having asked her to do so she continued to refer to Ms Wolf as ‘he’ and ‘him'”.

Shout out for Maria MacLachlan's YouTube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/@PeakTrans

Judges usually get pissed off at people who defy their orders in the court. The victim was not only defiant but also belligerent and disruptive.

There is no evidence that the victim was 'belligerent' or 'disruptive', unless referring to your male attacker as he automatically counts as belligerent and disruptive.

The victims supporters also participated in the belligerence and disruption in the courtroom. The judge said the victim could just refer the perp as "the defendant" but the victim refused to even comply with that.

While British criminal courts can provide compensation to victims they usually don't, leaving that up to the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority. The judge in this case also said the defendant caused "low harm" and had “low culpability”. There was also video evidence the victim committed violence on another trans person but that was not admitted into the trial.

And yes, there was a 150 pound fine. But also a 30 pound victim surcharge, and a 250 pound court cost imposed.

Nothing here was as cut and dried as you made it out to be.

The victim was denied compensation because she referred to her obviously male attacker as 'he'. It's exactly as cut and dried as that.

I just do not understand your denial disorder. Why deny something is happening when, not only is it obviously happening, you think it should be happening and you think it is good that it is happening?

 

[Metaphor]

Now try answering the question asked.

I did.
The answer to the question "What does trans ideology mean?" is "If someone identifies as trans they are entitled to stuff the rest of us aren't. Including victim status.".

Post #203.
It's right there.
Tom

You are correct - your opinion is right there. But your belief(s) about trans ideology are not trans ideology.

Then what is "trans ideology"?

What I see is the culture of entitlement and victimhood. I see that a lot. Not just trans folk, a lot.
Around here where I live, it's usually weight issues. "Nobody will hire a 400 pound person who dropped out of high school."

We Americans live largely in a culture of victimhood, entitlement, drugs, and guns. Trans people are cashing in.
Of course.
Tom

What is it about people like you and metaphor who like to stomp on the underdog?

What have I done to 'stomp' on 'the underdog'?

Also, the underdog? Gender ideology has enormous institutional power, including but not limited to government power. The 'underdog'? Give me a break.

 

[ZiprHead]

A woman in the UK who was assaulted by a transwoman was denied victim compensation because the woman did not use the transwoman's preferred pronouns in court.

The trans person who committed the assault was fined 430 pounds. It's not up to the criminal court to compensate the victim. That's done by the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority. Your story is bullcrap.

Please stop making false accusations. It is very unbecoming, especially for somebody in a position of power as you are.

UK Courts Ordered to Address ‘Transgender’ Defendants as the ‘Gender’ of their Choice

UK — London, England. In March 2019, a new edition of the Equal Treatment Bench Book (ETBB) 2018 was released. The revised edition states that the court should “recognise a person’s gen…

www.womenarehuman.com

However, in April 2018, prior to the new edition of the ETBB, a judged warned a female victim giving evidence that she should refer to her male attacker as “she”, because “(t)he defendant wished to be referred to as a woman”. The defendant, Tara Wolf (né Flik Wood) was found guilty of assaulting Maria Maclachlan and fined £150.

Judge Kenneth Grant refused to grant Ms Maclachlan any compensation, declaring, “It was notable that when I asked Ms Maclachlan to refer to Ms Wolf as ‘she’, she did so with bad grace – having asked her to do so she continued to refer to Ms Wolf as ‘he’ and ‘him'”.

Shout out for Maria MacLachlan's YouTube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/@PeakTrans

Judges usually get pissed off at people who defy their orders in the court. The victim was not only defiant but also belligerent and disruptive.

There is no evidence that the victim was 'belligerent' or 'disruptive', unless referring to your male attacker as he automatically counts as belligerent and disruptive.

The victims supporters also participated in the belligerence and disruption in the courtroom. The judge said the victim could just refer the perp as "the defendant" but the victim refused to even comply with that.

While British criminal courts can provide compensation to victims they usually don't, leaving that up to the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority. The judge in this case also said the defendant caused "low harm" and had “low culpability”. There was also video evidence the victim committed violence on another trans person but that was not admitted into the trial.

And yes, there was a 150 pound fine. But also a 30 pound victim surcharge, and a 250 pound court cost imposed.

Nothing here was as cut and dried as you made it out to be.

The victim was denied compensation because she referred to her obviously male attacker as 'he'. It's exactly as cut and dried as that.

I just do not understand your denial disorder. Why deny something is happening when, not only is it obviously happening, you think it should be happening and you think it is good that it is happening?

Sure, Jan.