Creationist Philosophy

[ideologyhunter]

Well, at least credit your source. This is almost word for word from 'Archaeopteryx: Cloaca v. Bunghole, an Avialaean Syzygy', in Jesuit Bulletin of Alimentary Nomenclature, Summer 2018, pp. 582-4, Loyola Univ. Chicago.

 

[excreationist]

Maybe this is relevant:

Why Does Creation Matter?

Is creation vital to the authority of Scripture and the gospel, or are we just wasting our time and being divisive—or worse, turning people away from Christ?

answersingenesis.org

“Ultimately, the controversy about the age of the earth is a controversy about the authority of Scripture. If millions of years really happened, then the Bible is false and cannot speak with authority on any issue, even the Gospel.”

 

[DBT]

'Controversy ' implies that there is some merit in creationist claims. The young earth claim has no merit. Special creation has no merit.

 

[excreationist]

'Controversy ' implies that there is some merit in creationist claims. The young earth claim has no merit. Special creation has no merit.

What if someone said that white supremacists were controversial?

 

[DBT]

'Controversy ' implies that there is some merit in creationist claims. The young earth claim has no merit. Special creation has no merit.

What if someone said that white supremacists were controversial?

Controversial, how?

 

[excreationist]

'Controversy ' implies that there is some merit in creationist claims. The young earth claim has no merit. Special creation has no merit.

What if someone said that white supremacists were controversial?

Controversial, how?

Well many people have a problem with white supremacists. If they were on South Park they could be called "controversial". But if they were in a children's show "controversial" would be an understatement.

 

[DBT]

'Controversy ' implies that there is some merit in creationist claims. The young earth claim has no merit. Special creation has no merit.

What if someone said that white supremacists were controversial?

Controversial, how?

Well many people have a problem with white supremacists. If they were on South Park they could be called "controversial". But if they were in a children's show "controversial" would be an understatement.

So, both being controversial, young earth creationism is on a par with race politics? Both have some possibility of being true?

My point was that young earth creationism has virtually no possibility of being true, so in that regard there is no controversy. It is simple false.

 

[excreationist]

So, both being controversial, young earth creationism is on a par with race politics? Both have some possibility of being true?

My point was that young earth creationism has virtually no possibility of being true, so in that regard there is no controversy. It is simple false.

Well I'd say flat earth belief is similar to YEC.

I tried Copilot:

Is the flat-earth belief controversial?

Yes, the flat-earth belief is highly controversial. While the overwhelming majority of scientists and evidence support the Earth being a nearly spherical shape, flat-earth proponents argue otherwise. This belief often stems from distrust in scientific institutions and skepticism of mainstream evidence, such as satellite imagery and space exploration.
The controversy arises because flat-earth theories challenge well-established scientific principles and are often seen as a rejection of critical thinking. Despite this, the flat-earth movement has gained attention, partly due to social media and public figures who have voiced support for it. It's a fascinating example of how conspiracy theories can thrive in the digital age. What are your thoughts on it?

The AI is meant to be trained in how language is used so I think "controversy" can be used without significant problems when talking about YEC.

Can the word "controversy" accurately be used when talking about YEC?

Yes, the word "controversy" can accurately be used when discussing Young Earth Creationism (YEC). The term "controversy" is often applied to topics that provoke significant disagreement or debate, especially when contrasting perspectives—such as YEC and mainstream scientific theories—collide.
In the case of YEC, the controversy centers around its rejection of well-established scientific principles like evolutionary biology, geology, and cosmology. This has sparked debates within educational systems, religious communities, and public forums, especially in regions where YEC is actively promoted.
The use of "controversy" highlights the clash between the evidence-based framework of science and the faith-based interpretations of creationism, making it a fitting term for discussions about YEC.

controversy - prolonged public disagreement or heated discussion.

 

[DBT]

So, both being controversial, young earth creationism is on a par with race politics? Both have some possibility of being true?

My point was that young earth creationism has virtually no possibility of being true, so in that regard there is no controversy. It is simple false.

Well I'd say flat earth belief is similar to YEC.

I tried Copilot:

Is the flat-earth belief controversial?

Yes, the flat-earth belief is highly controversial. While the overwhelming majority of scientists and evidence support the Earth being a nearly spherical shape, flat-earth proponents argue otherwise. This belief often stems from distrust in scientific institutions and skepticism of mainstream evidence, such as satellite imagery and space exploration.
The controversy arises because flat-earth theories challenge well-established scientific principles and are often seen as a rejection of critical thinking. Despite this, the flat-earth movement has gained attention, partly due to social media and public figures who have voiced support for it. It's a fascinating example of how conspiracy theories can thrive in the digital age. What are your thoughts on it?

The AI is meant to be trained in how language is used so I think "controversy" can be used without significant problems when talking about YEC.

Can the word "controversy" accurately be used when talking about YEC?

Yes, the word "controversy" can accurately be used when discussing Young Earth Creationism (YEC). The term "controversy" is often applied to topics that provoke significant disagreement or debate, especially when contrasting perspectives—such as YEC and mainstream scientific theories—collide.
In the case of YEC, the controversy centers around its rejection of well-established scientific principles like evolutionary biology, geology, and cosmology. This has sparked debates within educational systems, religious communities, and public forums, especially in regions where YEC is actively promoted.
The use of "controversy" highlights the clash between the evidence-based framework of science and the faith-based interpretations of creationism, making it a fitting term for discussions about YEC.

controversy - prolonged public disagreement or heated discussion.

It's only controversial in the sense that there are believers who argue for young earth creation. As far as the possibility of them being right, there is no controversy, there is no possibility of them being right.

 

[excreationist]

It's only controversial in the sense that there are believers who argue for young earth creation. As far as the possibility of them being right, there is no controversy, there is no possibility of them being right.

I don't think being controversial suggests that it could be correct. The AI said that flat-earth belief is "highly" controversial. I don't think that means there is a greater possibility of being correct than something that is merely controversial. There being no controversy means that it is obviously correct.

 

[DBT]

Controversy. How controversial is flat earth cosmology? Noahs flood. The existence of the Greek gods living atop Mt Olympus?

 

[excreationist]

Controversy. How controversial is flat earth cosmology? Noahs flood. The existence of the Greek gods living atop Mt Olympus?

The definition apparently is "prolonged public disagreement or heated discussion" and lately there has been that kind of thing with flat earthers. As far as Noah's Flood goes I think there has been some controversy within the church. But there hadn't been debate, etc, regarding gods living on Mt Olympus.

 

[DBT]

Controversy. How controversial is flat earth cosmology? Noahs flood. The existence of the Greek gods living atop Mt Olympus?

The definition apparently is "prolonged public disagreement or heated discussion" and lately there has been that kind of thing with flat earthers. As far as Noah's Flood goes I think there has been some controversy within the church. But there hadn't been debate, etc, regarding gods living on Mt Olympus.

Well, there's one thing in common, they all have the same probability of being true: Zero.

 

[excreationist]

Controversy. How controversial is flat earth cosmology? Noahs flood. The existence of the Greek gods living atop Mt Olympus?

The definition apparently is "prolonged public disagreement or heated discussion" and lately there has been that kind of thing with flat earthers. As far as Noah's Flood goes I think there has been some controversy within the church. But there hadn't been debate, etc, regarding gods living on Mt Olympus.

Well, there's one thing in common, they all have the same probability of being true: Zero.

Yeah that sounds reasonable but some people exaggerate when they say something has a zero probability of being true.

 

[DBT]

Controversy. How controversial is flat earth cosmology? Noahs flood. The existence of the Greek gods living atop Mt Olympus?

The definition apparently is "prolonged public disagreement or heated discussion" and lately there has been that kind of thing with flat earthers. As far as Noah's Flood goes I think there has been some controversy within the church. But there hadn't been debate, etc, regarding gods living on Mt Olympus.

Well, there's one thing in common, they all have the same probability of being true: Zero.

Yeah that sounds reasonable but some people exaggerate when they say something has a zero probability of being true.

If not zero, what are the odds of flat earth cosmology being true?

 

[Learner]

Controversy. How controversial is flat earth cosmology? Noahs flood. The existence of the Greek gods living atop Mt Olympus?

The definition apparently is "prolonged public disagreement or heated discussion" and lately there has been that kind of thing with flat earthers. As far as Noah's Flood goes I think there has been some controversy within the church. But there hadn't been debate, etc, regarding gods living on Mt Olympus.

Well, there's one thing in common, they all have the same probability of being true: Zero.

Yeah that sounds reasonable but some people exaggerate when they say something has a zero probability of being true.

If not zero, what are the odds of flat earth cosmology being true?

The odds of the flat earth compared to the world flood in comparison, don't necessarily have to have the same odds. One can be more plausible than the other. Exaggeration I suppose is portraying each case as being identical.

 

[pood]

Controversy. How controversial is flat earth cosmology? Noahs flood. The existence of the Greek gods living atop Mt Olympus?

The definition apparently is "prolonged public disagreement or heated discussion" and lately there has been that kind of thing with flat earthers. As far as Noah's Flood goes I think there has been some controversy within the church. But there hadn't been debate, etc, regarding gods living on Mt Olympus.

Well, there's one thing in common, they all have the same probability of being true: Zero.

Yeah that sounds reasonable but some people exaggerate when they say something has a zero probability of being true.

If not zero, what are the odds of flat earth cosmology being true?

The odds of the flat earth compared to the world flood in comparison, don't necessarily have to have the same odds.

Yes they are. Zero.

 

[Learner]

Flat earth I am not a proponent of. The flood however, we will just keep agreeing to disagree with. Still worth a good discussion, I think.

 

[pood]

Flat earth I am not a proponent of. The flood however, we will just keep agreeing to disagree with. Still worth a good discussion, I think.

There was never a global flood. Ever.

 

[Learner]

Flat earth I am not a proponent of. The flood however, we will just keep agreeing to disagree with. Still worth a good discussion, I think.

There was never a global flood. Ever.

According to the "secular board of investigations', yes I know your position.