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Yes, it took 8 years of terror against russian population for Russia to finally intervene militarily.
Yet another war, this time with Iran
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So fuck face Von clownstick first says a deal is imminent, then a day later he says he’s not going to be rushed into a deal. What happened? Republicans balked saying it would allow Iran to keep their nuclear material. Jesus fucking Christ. The deal is like 10 times worse than anything we had before. Rubio then gets on TV saying that’s absurd. We would never do that. So now there no fucking deal. There never was. It was just Trump blinking and then backing off when he gets called out for it. Iran can play this out for months. And Trump just has to sit there and take it. What shit for brains president and SECDEF we have. Complete morons.
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I think President Trump is saying that the parties are close to a completed deal but that the US is not going to cave in on certain points in order to get a deal in a hurry.
I am not disagreeing that Trump or Hegseth have shit for brains or that Rubio is spineless toady.
I am not disagreeing that Trump or Hegseth have shit for brains or that Rubio is spineless toady.
It's really unproductive to try and interpret Trump's word salad. He was barely coherent 10 years ago and he's significantly worse now.
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That is Chat GPT. Keep chatting with it and it will provide all type of answers, your questions lead it. One person in another forum is addicted to that.
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First time or the second time, NATO made Russia to attack Ukraine with no loss to it (except some armament). A good deal as far as NATO goes. Who cares about Ukranians? Are they not basically Russians?
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Putin had a choice. Putin made a choice to attack Ukraine. It is delusional to claim someone(s) made Russia attack Ukraine.
And Putin claims Ukranians are Russians even though Ukranians and the rest of world know they are not.
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Putin's choice was forced. That is how we feel when we see an increase in Chinese influence in our neighborhood or US sees Cuba.
Whether they are Russians or not is besides the point. NATO did not care/does not care for Ukranians in their four-year fight with Russia.
Sure, US is happy to provide arms, except when they need it in their Iranian war; then Ukranians become a burden on USA.
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What nonsense. India didn’t invade China.
You brought it up, not me.aupmanyav said:
More rubbish. NATO is more than the US.aupmanyav said:
Like when the abusive boyfriend tells the woman "You made me hit you", Right?
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We managed it with resistance and diplomacy. War with China will seriously affect development in India. We do not have the wherewithal to invade China.
I brought it up to show that Ukranians do not matter to NATO. They wanted a proxy war with Russia, to bleed Russia.
That is unfortunate. Europe is being involved with ambitions of USA for no reason.
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It is not like that. NATO incited unrest in Ukraine, Ukraine wanted to join a camp which is an enemy to Russia, that is what brought the Russia-Ukraine war.
Ukraine should have been careful. US and India too do not recognize Taiwan as an independent country, because China will react to that. It may attack India and make it difficult for US to get rare earths and other necessary imports from China. Ukraine went blindly against Russia thinking that it has US support.
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That proves my point - there is a choice.
BTW, it is clear Russia did not have the wherewithal to successfully invade Ukraine.
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That is unfortunate. Europe is being involved with ambitions of USA for no reason.
[/QUOTE] Why do you think anyone wanted to bleed a third world country like Russia?
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Sometime there is none. Why did Israel attack Gaza? I don't think they did it for fun. Why did US attack Iran? Because they could. That was partly for oil and partly for fun.
Because even if they may be a third-world country, they have 4,309 atom bombs and missiles to send them anywhere in the world.
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Here's a good podcast documentary on the Iranian revolution by The Rest is History
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The short story is that in the shah's Iran Imam's were also legal and administrative functionaries. Especially out in the country where people were illiterate. When the shah tried liberal reforms, that was good for the people, but weakened the power of the imams, that's when they suddenly started caring about the shah's corruption, human rights abuses and unwise management of govornment funds.
The shah's greatest flaw was that of incompetence. He was a weak ruler. He inherited power from his father. But had none of his fathers talents. He failed to correctly identify what and who kept him in power. His rule was nothing but a string of bad decisions
Revolution in Iran: Fall of the Shah (Part 1)
Why did the Iranian Revolution erupt in 1979? What was the nature of the relationship between President Carter and the ostentatious Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi? And, who was the Ayatollah Ruhollah…
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The short story is that in the shah's Iran Imam's were also legal and administrative functionaries. Especially out in the country where people were illiterate. When the shah tried liberal reforms, that was good for the people, but weakened the power of the imams, that's when they suddenly started caring about the shah's corruption, human rights abuses and unwise management of govornment funds.
The shah's greatest flaw was that of incompetence. He was a weak ruler. He inherited power from his father. But had none of his fathers talents. He failed to correctly identify what and who kept him in power. His rule was nothing but a string of bad decisions
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He knows just the swimming pool guy to do it, too.