• Welcome to the new Internet Infidels Discussion Board, formerly Talk Freethought.

Ben Carson's West Point Story Fabricated Says Ben Carson.

Nice Squirrel

Contributor
Joined
Jun 15, 2004
Messages
6,083
Location
Minnesota
Basic Beliefs
Only the Nice Squirrel can save us.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/ben-carson-west-point-215598
of Carson applying, much less being extended admission. | AP Photo

Ben Carson’s campaign on Friday admitted, in a response to an inquiry from POLITICO, that a central point in his inspirational personal story was fabricated: his application and acceptance into the U.S. Military Academy at West Point.

The academy has occupied a central place in Carson’s tale for years. According to a story told in Carson’s book, “Gifted Hands,” the then-17 year old was introduced in 1969 to Gen. William Westmoreland, who had just ended his command of U.S. forces in Vietnam, and the two dined together. That meeting, according to Carson’s telling, was followed by a “full scholarship” to the military academy.


West Point, however, has no record of Carson applying, much less being extended admission.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/ben-carson-west-point-215598#ixzz3qjbgvTSz
 
Anyone that has to say they were offered a full scholarship to any nation's military academy doesn't have their story down well. They're all free and you're expected to serve as an officer for six to 10 years to "pay" it back.
 
OK, if you know that you have these kinds of major inconsistencies in your public statements about your past, shouldn't you make an effort to clear them up before you start running for President? He was aware that every detail of his life would be gone through with a fine-toothed comb and yet he just left all this stuff sitting out there to be dropped as bombshells at the most politically inconvenient time for him.

What an idiot.
 
One does not receive a "full scholarship" to West Point.

You have to receive a congressional (or presidential) nomination and then also make it through the admissions process. Upon doing that, you "pay" for school by agreeing to serve in the military for a certain number of years thereafter. Students there actually receive a military paycheck so every student could be thought to be on "full scholarship".

aa
 
OK, if you know that you have these kinds of major inconsistencies in your public statements about your past, shouldn't you make an effort to clear them up before you start running for President?
If you spend a few hours on wikipedia and watch some youtube videos or documentaries. Your story and lingo wouldn't even have any redflags that might tip people off.
 
In Ben Carson's defence, it does sound like he's had a really boring life and, when he was writing his book, he needed to spice things up.

If he'd written "I was a shy and quiet kid in high school who kept to myself and spent my free time studying do that I could get into medical school" and "During my working years, I always made a point to get to 2-for-1 wing night at the local Applebee's - unless traffic was particularly had that day, of course", no publisher would have given him the time of day.
 
Well he is now attacking the "liberal media" saying they are lying about his lies.
 
The media smells blood...

Imaginary violent childhood, bizarre pyramid claim, and now a West Point Big Fib. Trump is already tweeting out that Carson is a crackpot.

Trump tweet from: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...9358-carson-cnn-thinks-im-a-pathological-liar
With Ben Carson wanting to hit his mother on head with a hammer, stabb a friend and Pyramids built for grain storage - don't people get it?
Oh, and a hint: never suggest, even when putting the words into someone else's mouth, that you are a pathological liar.

Let the cauldron simmer for a week or so, and Carson's poll numbers will most likely start crashing...another one bites the dust. :boom:
 
Was he introduced to Westmoreland?
Did the two have dinner together?
In the conversation was there any discussion of attending West Point?
Did Westmoreland allude or suggest any scholarship might be available if he applied?

Did he plagiarize Neil Kinnock's biographical speeches as his own life story...oh wait, that's another guy.
 
Was he introduced to Westmoreland?
Did the two have dinner together?
In the conversation was there any discussion of attending West Point?
Did Westmoreland allude or suggest any scholarship might be available?
No one will care...
 
Was he introduced to Westmoreland?
Did the two have dinner together?
In the conversation was there any discussion of attending West Point?
Did Westmoreland allude or suggest any scholarship might be available?

Dude, you might want to avoid taking the time to defend Ben Carson.

I get that you feel a need to respond to attacks on the GOP candidates and all that but you might want to sit this one out and wait until the next guy is put forward as the contender before stepping in on his behalf.
 
Was he introduced to Westmoreland?
Did the two have dinner together?
In the conversation was there any discussion of attending West Point?
Did Westmoreland allude or suggest any scholarship might be available?

Dude, you might want to avoid taking the time to defend Ben Carson.

I get that you feel a need to respond to attacks on the GOP candidates and all that but you might want to sit this one out and wait until the next guy is put forward as the contender before stepping in on his behalf.

Asking questions is not 'defending' Carson...not unless you think that the answers might not be as damning as you'd like.
 
Did Westmoreland allude or suggest any scholarship might be available if he applied?

No. There are no 'scholarships' to West Point. Westmoreland received an appointment there, graduated from there, and is buried there. Even if the two had met, he would not have left any such idea that some fictitious thing was even possible for any prospective attendee.

And then of course there is the unfortunate comment (in multiple books) from Carson where he said he actually received such an anomaly.

aa
 
Dude, you might want to avoid taking the time to defend Ben Carson.

I get that you feel a need to respond to attacks on the GOP candidates and all that but you might want to sit this one out and wait until the next guy is put forward as the contender before stepping in on his behalf.

Asking questions is not 'defending' Carson...not unless you think that the answers might not be as damning as you'd like.

I'm just saying - sit it out for this guy. Rubio will be surging next month and you can get on us for being unfair and biased against him. You're wasting your energy on Carson.
 
OK, if you know that you have these kinds of major inconsistencies in your public statements about your past, shouldn't you make an effort to clear them up before you start running for President? He was aware that every detail of his life would be gone through with a fine-toothed comb and yet he just left all this stuff sitting out there to be dropped as bombshells at the most politically inconvenient time for him.

What an idiot.

You'd think he'd have learned from when Joe Biden was caught plagiarizing details of his biography and the shame and outrage caused him to abandon politics and disappear from public life.
 
OK, if you know that you have these kinds of major inconsistencies in your public statements about your past, shouldn't you make an effort to clear them up before you start running for President? He was aware that every detail of his life would be gone through with a fine-toothed comb and yet he just left all this stuff sitting out there to be dropped as bombshells at the most politically inconvenient time for him.

What an idiot.

You'd think he'd have learned from when Joe Biden was caught plagiarizing details of his biography and the shame and outrage caused him to abandon politics and disappear from public life.

I agree with dismal. Let's take the discussion away from the GOP to talk about how bad the Democrats are.
 
Dude, you might want to avoid taking the time to defend Ben Carson.

I get that you feel a need to respond to attacks on the GOP candidates and all that but you might want to sit this one out and wait until the next guy is put forward as the contender before stepping in on his behalf.

Asking questions is not 'defending' Carson...not unless you think that the answers might not be as damning as you'd like.


Apparently Carson thinks asking questions is an attack. Like asking if he ever had a gun pointed at his head in a robbery attempt. Or if he ever stabbed anyone. Or if he got a scholarship to a place that doesn't give them. Or if he honestly believes a Hebrew built the pyramids to store grain.


Oh, poor Ben Carson! Being attacked by the liberal media! :realitycheck:
 
Back
Top Bottom