The Turin Shroud is back on display

[DrZoidberg]

This isn't even cognitive dissonance. This is just pure retardation. We all know it's a forgery. Yet, still on display and lots of Christians want to see it.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32368134

 

[DBT]

I suppose that some may want to see what all the fuss was about, just curiosity. Or as a work of art, regardless of it being a medieval forgery, still and interesting object. Others may reject the testing and choose to believe in its authenticity on faith.....that perhaps the scientists were mistaken, the sample taken was contaminated by material from a later period, and so on.

 

[Rhea]

From the article:

The Church has not officially claimed that Christ's body was wrapped in the shroud, preferring instead to focus on what it means to those who see it.
"Whether you believe or don't believe, there is no doubt it is something special," an Italian man who was among the first visitors on Sunday told the AFP news agency.
Earlier this week, Archbishop of Turin Cesare Nosiglia said: "What counts the most is that this shroud... reflects in a clear and precise manner how the gospels describe the passion and death of Jesus.
"It is not a profession of faith because it is not an object of faith, nor of devotion, but it can help faith."
Archbishop Nosiglia said that many of those coming to see the shroud would be returnees.
"That means there is a fundamental need in people's hearts to renew this incredible experience that they had the first time they saw it," he said.
"Even non-believers will come. It's an occasion that brings everybody together."

Oh, this is so true. We need connection to Jesus! From whatever source!

 

[Keith&Co.]

Earlier this week, Archbishop of Turin Cesare Nosiglia said: "What counts the most is that this shroud... reflects in a clear and precise manner how the gospels describe the passion and death of Jesus.

MAYBE the passion and death, but not the burial.

According to John, there should be a whole passel of strips. Laying them out to see the wounds should be more of a puzzle and the result should resemble something Picasso did in his Snuff period.

 

[ideologyhunter]

I have cousins who traveled to Italy to see it. One of many topics I tell myself over & over that must not be discussed with them. (sound of teeth grinding)

 

[angelo]

Not again! Will we ever see the end of that rug?

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

I have cousins who traveled to Italy to see it. One of many topics I tell myself over & over that must not be discussed with them. (sound of teeth grinding)

How unfortunate, perhaps even sad - that it doesn't get discussed I mean.

 

[DBT]

Believers tend to resent having their beliefs questioned.

 

[BH]

To me it looks like a bed sheet with a lot of jerk off stains that need washing out.

 

[angelo]

It looks like exactly what it is. A painting made to look authentic. Probably commissioned by the church.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Well, if it looked and trusted like it was real, you wouldn't need faith to believe in it, would you?

Christianity: 1
Atheism: 0

 

[angelo]

What do you believe, faith or science? Personally, I pick science every time.

 

[DBT]

It appears as if faith wins out more often than not.....

 

[whichphilosophy]

What do you believe, faith or science? Personally, I pick science every time.

Do you have faith in science?

 

[DBT]

faith is not needed. Or wanted. Nor should it be promoted or encouraged.

 

[DrZoidberg]

What do you believe, faith or science? Personally, I pick science every time.

Do you have faith in science?

Aren't you bathing your alter or science with goats blood every night? I do it just to be sure science will make the sun come up each morning? Can't be too careful.

 

[skepticalbip]

Well, if it looked and trusted like it was real, you wouldn't need faith to believe in it, would you?

Christianity: 1
Atheism: 0

Certainly a win for the Christians. Those atheists and their "scientific tests" even demonstrated what a miracle the shroud is. The fact that they radiocarbon dated the shroud that was folded around our lord and savior after his crucifixion to around 1300 A.D. was a miraculous test our faith that the atheists failed.

Burn in hell nonbelievers... Jesus loves you.

 

[blastula]

From the article:

The Church has not officially claimed that Christ's body was wrapped in the shroud, preferring instead to focus on what it means to those who see it.
"Whether you believe or don't believe, there is no doubt it is something special," an Italian man who was among the first visitors on Sunday told the AFP news agency.
Earlier this week, Archbishop of Turin Cesare Nosiglia said: "What counts the most is that this shroud... reflects in a clear and precise manner how the gospels describe the passion and death of Jesus.
"It is not a profession of faith because it is not an object of faith, nor of devotion, but it can help faith."
Archbishop Nosiglia said that many of those coming to see the shroud would be returnees.
"That means there is a fundamental need in people's hearts to renew this incredible experience that they had the first time they saw it," he said.
"Even non-believers will come. It's an occasion that brings everybody together."

Oh, this is so true. We need connection to Jesus! From whatever source!

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My, what big balls you have, Jesus!

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

It appears as if faith wins out more often than not.....

I have faith that I'm a billionaire.



Waiting...



Still waiting...

 

[angelo]

What do you believe, faith or science? Personally, I pick science every time.

Do you have faith in science?

You don't need faith in science. You can see it at work all around you every moment of the day.