Meanwhile Putin releases his latest Greatest "Hits"

[Jimmy Higgins]

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A Russian opposition politician in a coma with organ failure suffered "acute poisoning" by an unknown substance, his wife said Tuesday, two years after a suspected poisoning nearly killed him.
Kremlin critic Vladimir Kara-Murza has been on a ventilator and undergoing renal dialysis since he was hospitalised after collapsing in Moscow on Thursday.

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Top Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny was found guilty on Wednesday of embezzlement and given a five-year suspended sentence that threatens to end his bid to challenge President Vladimir Putin in a presidential poll next year.


A judge in the provincial city of Kirov found the Kremlin critic and anti-corruption campaigner guilty at a trial that he insists was aimed at knocking him out of the election expected in March 2018.

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Freezing and nerve-shattered residents of an eastern Ukraine town battered by an upsurge in fighting between troops and Russia-backed rebels flocked to a humanitarian aid center Wednesday to receive food and warm up.


Heavy shelling of government-held Avdiivka, just north of the rebel stronghold city of Donetsk, began over the weekend and persisted into early Wednesday. Donetsk city also was hit.


At least 10 people have been killed since Monday and dozens wounded.

Putin is a busy boy. But Trump thinks that the US is just as bad.

 

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I think it would be useful to separate out internal country repression from foreign adventures. I have no idea what Don the Con fully meant when he said "You think our country's so innocent?". Maybe he doesn't even know fully... Internally, Americans are free of threats of being killed by mysterious thugs, or being jailed on trump up charges for political reasons as happens within the worlds largest mafia outfit.

However, if one is talking about foreign adventures, then I would agree with the broken clock, that yeah, the US is not 'so innocent' of being killers.

 

[LordKiran]

I think it would be useful to separate out internal country repression from foreign adventures. I have no idea what Don the Con fully meant when he said "You think our country's so innocent?". Maybe he doesn't even know fully... Internally, Americans are free of threats of being killed by mysterious thugs, or being jailed on trump up charges for political reasons as happens within the worlds largest mafia outfit.

However, if one is talking about foreign adventures, then I would agree with the broken clock, that yeah, the US is not 'so innocent' of being killers.

Right. There's a large principle difference between a man who directly or indirectly murders dozens of people to maintain his political supremacy and a country who directly or indirectly murders tens of thousands of people in the interest of maintaining it's geopolitical primacy.

 

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but Jimmy Higgins, nordstroms isn't selling little ivanka's clothes anymore... tweet

 

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I think it would be useful to separate out internal country repression from foreign adventures. I have no idea what Don the Con fully meant when he said "You think our country's so innocent?". Maybe he doesn't even know fully... Internally, Americans are free of threats of being killed by mysterious thugs, or being jailed on trump up charges for political reasons as happens within the worlds largest mafia outfit.

However, if one is talking about foreign adventures, then I would agree with the broken clock, that yeah, the US is not 'so innocent' of being killers.

Right. There's a large principle difference between a man who directly or indirectly murders dozens of people to maintain his political supremacy and a country who directly or indirectly murders tens of thousands of people in the interest of maintaining it's geopolitical primacy.

I'm not trying to defend the dichotomy that most people have about fellow citizens verses outsider. I was pointing out that many do in fact look at the world this way. I suspect that only a small percentage of people don't exhibit any differentiation; and I do it, even if I hopefully do it less than many others.

Putin is a killer both inside his own country and outside, and there are few checks against his use/abuse of power. Bill O'Reilly, when interviewing FFvC most certainly lives within such a dichotomy. Repugnatins would be most deeply offended if Pres. Obama ever said what FFvC just said.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Right. There's a large principle difference between a man who directly or indirectly murders dozens of people to maintain his political supremacy and a country who directly or indirectly murders tens of thousands of people in the interest of maintaining it's geopolitical primacy.

I'm not trying to defend the dichotomy that most people have about fellow citizens verses outsider. I was pointing out that many do in fact look at the world this way. I suspect that only a small percentage of people don't exhibit any differentiation; and I do it, even if I hopefully do it less than many others.

Putin is a killer both inside his own country and outside, and there are few checks against his use/abuse of power. Bill O'Reilly, when interviewing FFvC most certainly lives within such a dichotomy. Repugnatins would be most deeply offended if Pres. Obama ever said what FFvC just said.

The issue raised regarded what Putin is doing to people in his own country. Yes, America has issues, but domestically, while Trump would like to emulate a Putin Presidency, our Constitution and Court System doesn't allow for it.

 

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Top Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny was found guilty on Wednesday of embezzlement and given a five-year suspended sentence that threatens to end his bid to challenge President Vladimir Putin in a presidential poll next year.


A judge in the provincial city of Kirov found the Kremlin critic and anti-corruption campaigner guilty at a trial that he insists was aimed at knocking him out of the election expected in March 2018.

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Freezing and nerve-shattered residents of an eastern Ukraine town battered by an upsurge in fighting between troops and Russia-backed rebels flocked to a humanitarian aid center Wednesday to receive food and warm up.


Heavy shelling of government-held Avdiivka, just north of the rebel stronghold city of Donetsk, began over the weekend and persisted into early Wednesday. Donetsk city also was hit.


At least 10 people have been killed since Monday and dozens wounded.

Putin is a busy boy. But Trump thinks that the US is just as bad.

Regarding ukrainian business. Ukrainian government admitted that they started latest shit there, and they did bomb rebel held Donetsk.
Also Ukrainian special forces continued their campaign of assassinations by killing another prominent leader of the rebel. They are getting quite good at blowing up important people, in elevators, in cars, now in the office.

 

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I'm not trying to defend the dichotomy that most people have about fellow citizens verses outsider. I was pointing out that many do in fact look at the world this way. I suspect that only a small percentage of people don't exhibit any differentiation; and I do it, even if I hopefully do it less than many others.

Putin is a killer both inside his own country and outside, and there are few checks against his use/abuse of power. Bill O'Reilly, when interviewing FFvC most certainly lives within such a dichotomy. Repugnatins would be most deeply offended if Pres. Obama ever said what FFvC just said.

The issue raised regarded what Putin is doing to people in his own country.

Yeah, I get that distinction, but does FFvC?

And here we have M&M Senate leader doing blurred lines:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ers-break-from-trumps-comments-on-russia.html

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., immediately looked to distance himself from Trump’s comments in an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

“Putin's a former KGB agent. He's a thug. He was not elected in a way that most people would consider a credible election," he said. “The Russians annexed Crimea, invaded Ukraine and messed around in our elections. And no, I don't think there's any equivalency between the way the Russians conduct themselves and the way the United States does."

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

He admits they "messed" with our election. Wonder if anything will come from the investigation. :laughing-smiley-014

 

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He was not elected in a way that most people would consider a credible election," he said. “The Russians annexed Crimea, invaded Ukraine and messed around in our elections. And no, I don't think there's any equivalency between the way the Russians conduct themselves and the way the United States does.

Do republicans who support Trump understand the irony? Mitch supports Trump, right?
US messed around election in Russia too, and in Ukraine. So I would say there is some equivalence.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

He was not elected in a way that most people would consider a credible election," he said. “The Russians annexed Crimea, invaded Ukraine and messed around in our elections. And no, I don't think there's any equivalency between the way the Russians conduct themselves and the way the United States does.

Do republicans who support Trump understand the irony? Mitch supports Trump, right?
US messed around election in Russia too, and in Ukraine. So I would say there is some equivalence.

The US didn't try to assassinate one of the Ukrainian candidates. Sure, you may bring up Hugo Chavez, but that is totally different because umm... freedom! Of course, the US never had an interest in annexing Venezuela.

 

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Do republicans who support Trump understand the irony? Mitch supports Trump, right?
US messed around election in Russia too, and in Ukraine. So I would say there is some equivalence.

The US didn't try to assassinate one of the Ukrainian candidates.

Well, US ukrainian allies did the assassinations. As for this poisoning thing, you are jumping to the conclusions. It's weird story. I don't know what to make of it but it does not look like what you suggest. The guy survived the first poisoning which is weird, then he does not leave the country (weird too) and then survives another exactly the same kind of poisoning. It's as if someone is trying to frame Trump's friend. Reminded me the case of that Central America politician who ordered his own assassination to frame his opponent.

Litvinenko (crappy version of Snowden) was most likely assassinated and Putin at the very least covered this act by refusing to cooperate. I think it was a huge mistake on his part, now he is a suspect in any murder. But then again, Litvinenko story could have been brilliantly executed frame-up CIA,MI6 and possibly Berezovsky. Reminded me Clinton and the death one of her staffer in Washington.

Sure, you may bring up Hugo Chavez, but that is totally different because umm... freedom! Of course, the US never had an interest in annexing Venezuela.

US really tried to poison Chaves? why? because he talked trash about US? He posed no threat whatsoever