Someone is trying to get favor with Trump

[Jimmy Higgins]

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A Montana sheriff has issued a citation for misdemeanor assault against Republican U.S. House candidate Greg Gianforte after a newspaper reporter said the politician "body slammed" him, an account that was backed up by witnesses.

Gallatin County Sheriff Brian Gootkin said Gianforte was issued a citation Wednesday night. The incident occurred on the eve of Thursday's special election in which Gianforte faces a Democratic opponent for the state's open House seat.

So it looks like a person via for the open house seat in Montana is trying to help get the Trump Administration out of the news by physically assaulting a reporter asking a question about the CBO's assessment of the AHCA. And in physically assaulting, I mean:

Alexis Levinson, a reporter for BuzzFeed News, who was also at the event, tweeted that Jacobs had walked into a room where a local television crew was set up for an interview with Gianforte when "all of a sudden I heard a giant crash and saw Ben's feet fly in the air as he hit the floor."

Gianforte had been leading in the polls by a good margin (49 to 35) against the Democratic opponent, a folk singer or something. No news on whether assaulting a member of the press will be looked at negatively by people in Montana, the Crazy Militia State.

 

[funinspace]

Yeah, I saw that in the news. Sadly, it sounds like much of the vote is already in via early voting. So even if voters are bothered by this guy lacking control of his temperament, it may not be enough to swing the vote away from him this late.

 

[ZiprHead]

It was also confirmed by the Fox News crew (local) that was in the room.

 

[Malintent]

I call shenanigans. Especially in light of the timing.

The reporter got in the candidate's face, after being told (on this and previous occasions) to get his recording device out of close proximity to his face. The candidate said he would speak with the reporter later, and the reporter responded by committing a physical assault on the candidate (he grabbed him by the wrist). The candidate allegedly "twisted away" from the assaulting reporter, which brought them both to the ground.

No body slam... the reporter initiated the assault.

It may be true that once on the ground, the candidate punched the reporter in the face... I am unclear on that aspect. If the reporter still had the candidate in his grasp at that time, then the punch would have been defensive (in my opinion), to free himself rom the assaulting reporter.

I am no repugnant apologist, but this is just a bunch of bullshit right there.

Oh, and during the MSNBC broadcast of this report, Wolf Blitzer said the following regarding "democrats winning over republicans"... he said, "WE will win"... not that the dems will win, but "WE" will.

So, now MSNBC admits to being a loyal representative of the DNC? Revealing. FOX and MSNBC are identical in so-called "balanced reporting".

However, CNN didn't report this much better either. Anderson Cooper was a little overly "outraged" at a pushy reporter getting pushed back.

for Montana... I imagine this would likely HELP the candidate... "prospective Senator won't be pushed around by the alt-left liberals".

 

[Derec]

No body slam... the reporter initiated the assault.

Is that verified, or your conjecture? My understanding is that the candidate and reporter are claiming opposite things, so we do not know what actually happened.

Oh, and during the MSNBC broadcast of this report, Wolf Blitzer said the following regarding "democrats winning over republicans"... he said, "WE will win"... not that the dems will win, but "WE" will.

Wolf is at CNN. Are you confusing him with somebody else?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I call shenanigans. Especially in light of the timing.

The reporter got in the candidate's face, after being told (on this and previous occasions) to get his recording device out of close proximity to his face. The candidate said he would speak with the reporter later, and the reporter responded by committing a physical assault on the candidate (he grabbed him by the wrist). The candidate allegedly "twisted away" from the assaulting reporter, which brought them both to the ground.

No body slam... the reporter initiated the assault.

It may be true that once on the ground, the candidate punched the reporter in the face... I am unclear on that aspect. If the reporter still had the candidate in his grasp at that time, then the punch would have been defensive (in my opinion), to free himself rom the assaulting reporter.

I am no repugnant apologist, but this is just a bunch of bullshit right there.

You pretty much took the candidate's word over most of the witnesses in the room. The police didn't even believe the guy and charged him with assault.

Oh, and during the MSNBC broadcast of this report, Wolf Blitzer said the following regarding "democrats winning over republicans"... he said, "WE will win"... not that the dems will win, but "WE" will.

Blitzer works for CNN.

So, now MSNBC admits to being a loyal representative of the DNC? Revealing. FOX and MSNBC are identical in so-called "balanced reporting".

However, CNN didn't report this much better either. Anderson Cooper was a little overly "outraged" at a pushy reporter getting pushed back.

Assaulting a reporter isn't an issue? There is a recording, did you listen to it?

for Montana... I imagine this would likely HELP the candidate... "prospective Senator won't be pushed around by the alt-left liberals".

Representative, not Senator.

 

[ksen]

Did malintent get even one thing right in his response?

 

[Derec]

Did malintent get even one thing right in his response?

Anderson Cooper does indeed work for CNN.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Did malintent get even one thing right in his response?

Let's see:

Especially in light of the timing
It was too late, most votes already cast.

The reporter got in the candidate's face, after being told (on this and previous occasions) to get his recording device out of close proximity to his face. The candidate said he would speak with the reporter later, and the reporter responded by committing a physical assault on the candidate (he grabbed him by the wrist). The candidate allegedly "twisted away" from the assaulting reporter, which brought them both to the ground.

No body slam... the reporter initiated the assault.
Most witnesses disagree, as did the police. Though, a half-credit for both being on the ground.

It may be true that once on the ground, the candidate punched the reporter in the face.
Correct, got one.

I am unclear on that aspect. If the reporter still had the candidate in his grasp at that time, then the punch would have been defensive (in my opinion), to free himself rom the assaulting reporter.
Witnesses disagree, so do Police

Oh, and during the MSNBC broadcast of this report, Wolf Blitzer said the following regarding "democrats winning over republicans"... he said, "WE will win"... not that the dems will win, but "WE" will.
Blitzer works for CNN. I don't know about the quote.

However, CNN didn't report this much better either. Anderson Cooper was a little overly "outraged" at a pushy reporter getting pushed back.
Double points for correct as Cooper works for CNN and is over-reactive/disingenuous (IMO).

So not entirely all swings and misses, but a lot of men left on base.

 

[Malintent]

Is that verified, or your conjecture? My understanding is that the candidate and reporter are claiming opposite things, so we do not know what actually happened.

Oh, and during the MSNBC broadcast of this report, Wolf Blitzer said the following regarding "democrats winning over republicans"... he said, "WE will win"... not that the dems will win, but "WE" will.

Wolf is at CNN. Are you confusing him with somebody else?

shoot, I must be confusing him... damn, I wish I remember exactly when and who it was on MSNBC... I am sure someone can find it... it was within an hour or so of the incident.. last night. a "regular" on the network.

Yes, I am sure about that sequence of events. Listen to the audio (the only hard evidence). there is a pause in the audio (not a cut or edit - just a quiet second or two) between when his question is rejected and the sound of the scuffle. "Something" happened to then cause the candidate to say something on the order of, "cut that out".. and "I've told your people before not to do that". He was clearly, and unambiguously referring to a physical action that was occurring, and not at all anything to do with the question he was asked.

When the candidate was questioned about it, he confirmed that the reporter did something (allegedly grab his wrist - which is supported by the audio in terms of timing and reasonableness of the claim) to instigate it.

What I am calling shenanigans is how it is being reported and blown out of proportion, due to the timing (a day before election).

 

[Malintent]

Did malintent get even one thing right in his response?

Let's see:

Especially in light of the timing
It was too late, most votes already cast.

The reporter got in the candidate's face, after being told (on this and previous occasions) to get his recording device out of close proximity to his face. The candidate said he would speak with the reporter later, and the reporter responded by committing a physical assault on the candidate (he grabbed him by the wrist). The candidate allegedly "twisted away" from the assaulting reporter, which brought them both to the ground.

No body slam... the reporter initiated the assault.
Most witnesses disagree, as did the police. Though, a half-credit for both being on the ground.

It may be true that once on the ground, the candidate punched the reporter in the face.
Correct, got one.

I am unclear on that aspect. If the reporter still had the candidate in his grasp at that time, then the punch would have been defensive (in my opinion), to free himself rom the assaulting reporter.
Witnesses disagree, so do Police

Oh, and during the MSNBC broadcast of this report, Wolf Blitzer said the following regarding "democrats winning over republicans"... he said, "WE will win"... not that the dems will win, but "WE" will.
Blitzer works for CNN. I don't know about the quote.

However, CNN didn't report this much better either. Anderson Cooper was a little overly "outraged" at a pushy reporter getting pushed back.
Double points for correct as Cooper works for CNN and is over-reactive/disingenuous (IMO).

So not entirely all swings and misses, but a lot of men left on base.

Yea, I also got the name of the "news" anchor that referred to the democratic party as "we" wrong.

what I got right was what I was focusing on... the reporter instigated it (probably shouldn't have been punched), and the left-leaning "news" networks ran with it like it was some huge revelation that the GoP is full of bullies and thugs... on the eve of an election. I've been hearing far too many "outrageous" stories the eve before elections.

The "outrageous" part of the story is how "setup" it feels.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

what I got right was what I was focusing on... the reporter instigated it (probably shouldn't have been punched), and the left-leaning "news" networks ran with it like it was some huge revelation that the GoP is full of bullies and thugs... on the eve of an election. I've been hearing far too many "outrageous" stories the eve before elections.

But the police charged the candidate with misdemeanor assault.

The "outrageous" part of the story is how "setup" it feels.

The election is likely already won by the candidate charged by the police thanks to mail in balloting. The local press, including papers that endorsed him, saw this as bad and even unendorsed him. That isn't the wildly liberal press printing out there.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

Did malintent get even one thing right in his response?

....Montana......

 

[Malintent]

Is it normal that 70% of those voting in Montana in this type of election would "mail in" their vote early? 70% sounds exceptionally high.
The way I see it (and I may be missing something core here), the people mailing in their ballots represent those that are traveling out of state, or are infirmed, or are "off the grid" rural. Is 70% of Montana traveling right now or living hundreds of miles away from a voting booth? Is there an organization "helping" people to vote, so to speak? What has the historical proxy or mail-in vote percentages been for that region for this type of election? How secure is mail-in voting in general, with respect to accountability and authenticity?

 

[Keith&Co.]

The way I see it (and I may be missing something core here), the people mailing in their ballots represent those that are traveling out of state, or are infirmed, or are "off the grid" rural.

It's an off-year election. How many deployed military would it take to reach 70% of those that are actually going to vote?

And, yeah, there's a voting officer at every command who will hound people to get them to vote in elections they'd otherwise ignore. Add in some supporters stumping through the old-folks homes, hospitals and the libraries in both places in Montana that have smog, you've probably nearly swept the ranks of those that give enough of a shit to fill out the form and hand it back to the volunteer.

 

[blastula]

Is that verified, or your conjecture? My understanding is that the candidate and reporter are claiming opposite things, so we do not know what actually happened.



Wolf is at CNN. Are you confusing him with somebody else?

shoot, I must be confusing him... damn, I wish I remember exactly when and who it was on MSNBC... I am sure someone can find it... it was within an hour or so of the incident.. last night. a "regular" on the network.

Yes, I am sure about that sequence of events. Listen to the audio (the only hard evidence). there is a pause in the audio (not a cut or edit - just a quiet second or two) between when his question is rejected and the sound of the scuffle. "Something" happened to then cause the candidate to say something on the order of, "cut that out".. and "I've told your people before not to do that". He was clearly, and unambiguously referring to a physical action that was occurring, and not at all anything to do with the question he was asked.

When the candidate was questioned about it, he confirmed that the reporter did something (allegedly grab his wrist - which is supported by the audio in terms of timing and reasonableness of the claim) to instigate it.

What I am calling shenanigans is how it is being reported and blown out of proportion, due to the timing (a day before election).

 

[funinspace]

Is it normal that 70% of those voting in Montana in this type of election would "mail in" their vote early? 70% sounds exceptionally high.
The way I see it (and I may be missing something core here), the people mailing in their ballots represent those that are traveling out of state, or are infirmed, or are "off the grid" rural. Is 70% of Montana traveling right now or living hundreds of miles away from a voting booth? Is there an organization "helping" people to vote, so to speak? What has the historical proxy or mail-in vote percentages been for that region for this type of election? How secure is mail-in voting in general, with respect to accountability and authenticity?

Round my parts it is pretty much 100%...

Looks like in Montana you can vote up to 30 days early just because you feel like it...no traveling in-firmed grids required...
https://ballotpedia.org/Voting_in_Montana

All voters are eligible to vote absentee in Montana. There are no special eligibility requirements for voting absentee.[9]

To vote absentee, an absentee ballot application must be received by county election officials by noon the day prior to the election. A returned absentee ballot must then be received by election officials before the close of polls on Election Day.[9]

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Round my parts it is pretty much 100%...

Looks like in Montana you can vote up to 30 days early just because you feel like it...
https://ballotpedia.org/Voting_in_Montana

All voters are eligible to vote absentee in Montana. There are no special eligibility requirements for voting absentee.[9]

To vote absentee, an absentee ballot application must be received by county election officials by noon the day prior to the election. A returned absentee ballot must then be received by election officials before the close of polls on Election Day.[9]

Yeah, Montana is a safe red state, so I'm surprised they don't allow voting 4 years in advance.

 

[Will Wiley]

Is that verified, or your conjecture?

American news no longer consist of anything that is verified, but that is how people like their news

 

[blastula]

Is that verified, or your conjecture?

American news no longer consist of anything that is verified, but that is how people like their news

Putinistas like their news like this

One can take into account that the NYPD have already looked at emails from the laptop.
Reports are they found plenty before handing the laptop to the FBI

Erik Prince: NYPD Ready to Make Arrests in Anthony Weiner Case

Prince claimed he had insider knowledge of the investigation that could help explain why FBI Director James Comey had to announce he was reopening the investigation into Clinton’s email server last week.

“Because of Weinergate and the sexting scandal, the NYPD started investigating it. Through a subpoena, through a warrant, they searched his laptop, and sure enough, found those 650,000 emails. They found way more stuff than just more information pertaining to the inappropriate sexting the guy was doing,” Prince claimed.

“They found State Department emails. They found a lot of other really damning criminal information, including money laundering, including the fact that Hillary went to this sex island with convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Bill Clinton went there more than 20 times. Hillary Clinton went there at least six times,” he said.

“The amount of garbage that they found in these emails, of criminal activity by Hillary, by her immediate circle, and even by other Democratic members of Congress was so disgusting they gave it to the FBI, and they said, ‘We’re going to go public with this if you don’t reopen the investigation and you don’t do the right thing with timely indictments,’” Prince explained.

Maybe Putin put the emails on Wieners laptop?