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Mazzie Daius
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Ever rest in a warm nutrient bath. Really hard to have thoughts, Just more and more anxiety, perhaps sleepful feelings even sleep. So one thing that produces thought are sensory inputs. You can do similar experiments using drugs or other approaches and find other things needed to produce thoughts. So, broadly speaking inputs are required to produce ideas, How are those ideas or thoughts in man different from those of the Manta. Well man can conduct experiments and find what produces decisions, ideas, in Mantas.
One of my specialties was the study of learning in African mouth breeders like tilapia, and oscars. There we found the occurrence of three nearly identical events of importance to the fish produces association, learning.
Drop one meal worm into the tank after the subject nosed against a test tube and it withdrew. a second and it withdrew again. A third time and it descended to the far end of the tank, it's chromatophores darkened, then after a moment the subject would begin incessantly nosing the test tube getting meal worms until it was satiated. It had learned. We had found an very strong emotional component to learning associated with autonomic behavior coupled with association of worm with nose push on tube.
And there are Rats, and Cats, and Possum, and macaque, all somewhat different in their approach to acquiring new behavior through various learning paradigms. All demonstrating species specific characteristis in learning behavior.
I'm pretty sure there are ample other areas of behavioral study that are just as enlightening.
Are we pretending to know something. No. We are accumulating a catalog of behaviors across species related to learning, motivation, sensation, perception, parenting, etc. We are not putting some rational constraint on these. We are studying similarities, differences, in behavior habitat and nervous systems so we can underestand learning, thinking, the emergence of various creativities, etc.
The human brain is at the end of a long line of adaptations of vertebrate NS. So it makes no sense to impose some preconception based on personal belief as to the modes and capabilities except those that can be repeated and compared with the work of others.
One of my specialties was the study of learning in African mouth breeders like tilapia, and oscars. There we found the occurrence of three nearly identical events of importance to the fish produces association, learning.
Drop one meal worm into the tank after the subject nosed against a test tube and it withdrew. a second and it withdrew again. A third time and it descended to the far end of the tank, it's chromatophores darkened, then after a moment the subject would begin incessantly nosing the test tube getting meal worms until it was satiated. It had learned. We had found an very strong emotional component to learning associated with autonomic behavior coupled with association of worm with nose push on tube.
And there are Rats, and Cats, and Possum, and macaque, all somewhat different in their approach to acquiring new behavior through various learning paradigms. All demonstrating species specific characteristis in learning behavior.
I'm pretty sure there are ample other areas of behavioral study that are just as enlightening.
Are we pretending to know something. No. We are accumulating a catalog of behaviors across species related to learning, motivation, sensation, perception, parenting, etc. We are not putting some rational constraint on these. We are studying similarities, differences, in behavior habitat and nervous systems so we can underestand learning, thinking, the emergence of various creativities, etc.
The human brain is at the end of a long line of adaptations of vertebrate NS. So it makes no sense to impose some preconception based on personal belief as to the modes and capabilities except those that can be repeated and compared with the work of others.
