Breaking News from 2008

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

This just in. Breaking News (from 2008).

Hillary Clinton decided not to fire a senior adviser on her 2008 presidential campaign who had been accused of sexual harassment, against the recommendation of her campaign manager, two sources who worked on the 2008 campaign tell CNN.

A female campaign staffer had accused Clinton's faith adviser, Burns Strider, of harassment that included inappropriate touching, kissing her forehead and sending her suggestive emails, the sources said.

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The woman was moved out of the office where she had been working with Strider, one source said, and the faith adviser was punished by having his pay docked for several weeks, having his title changed and being required to undergo sexual harassment training.

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After the 2008 campaign, Strider was tasked to lead Correct the Record, an independent group that looked to rebut claims about Clinton as she prepared for her 2016 presidential run. ...

Strider was later fired from the organization, however, after a series of issues, including allegations that he harassed multiple female staffers in person and over email, two sources with knowledge of his departure told CNN.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/26/politics/clinton-2008-campaign-adviser-sexual-harassment/index.html

Well, this is just terrible. Would you all stop focusing on the President, RussiaGate, and whether or not a nuclear war with North Korea is imminent? Can't you see that Clinton was so evil in 2008 she gave someone who touched, kissed, and sent suggestive emails to a fellow employee a dock in pay, retraining, and a title change, and when he did it again in 2016, she fired him? I mean, what kind of woman was she back then?

 

[Derec]

After the #metoo purge is complete, will there be anybody left standing?

 

[Tom Sawyer]

After the #metoo purge is complete, will there be anybody left standing?

Only the people who treat others as human beings. Who wants them around?

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

After the #metoo purge is complete, will there be anybody left standing?

I don't think her actions were totally unreasonable. Apply consequences within reason and retrain on first offense depending on severity, fire on second offense. But the point you are ignoring because of your anti-woman hobby horse is that this news is old. Sources are dredging up old news for political reasons. Could be Trump. I wonder if you can discuss THAT without talking about women. Hmmmm...

 

[Derec]

I don't think her actions were totally unreasonable. Apply consequences within reason and retrain on first offense depending on severity, fire on second offense. But the point you are ignoring because of your anti-woman hobby horse is that this news is old. Sources are dredging up old news for political reasons. Could be Trump. I wonder if you can discuss THAT without talking about women. Hmmmm...

I think it is being dredged up because of the #metoo hysteria. Many of the other stories that broke have been several decades old, so why not one decade? This is not something unique to Hillary and her staffer by any means, which was my point. The #metoo purge endangers everybody.

 

[Derec]

Only the people who treat others as human beings. Who wants them around?

You are forgetting that the #metoo witch hunts are ruining lives and careers of men based on mere accusations. And also that even very mild accusations of things that can barely if at all be called "sexual misconduct" are being blown way out of proportion. See Carrier, Richard and Ansari, Aziz.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

I don't think her actions were totally unreasonable. Apply consequences within reason and retrain on first offense depending on severity, fire on second offense. But the point you are ignoring because of your anti-woman hobby horse is that this news is old. Sources are dredging up old news for political reasons. Could be Trump. I wonder if you can discuss THAT without talking about women. Hmmmm...

I think it is being dredged up because of the #metoo hysteria. Many of the other stories that broke have been several decades old, so why not one decade? This is not something unique to Hillary and her staffer by any means, which was my point. The #metoo purge endangers everybody.

Wow, did I call it. You just can't consider any other political motivations by anyone else.

 

[LordKiran]

Only the people who treat others as human beings. Who wants them around?

You are forgetting that the #metoo witch hunts are ruining lives and careers of men based on mere accusations. And also that even very mild accusations of things that can barely if at all be called "sexual misconduct" are being blown way out of proportion. See Carrier, Richard and Ansari, Aziz.

Oh no. Public figures with millions of dollars are losing face and their cushy jobs. All those women who got raped/assaulted/harassed should really have some sympathy.

 

[Derec]

Oh no. Public figures with millions of dollars are losing face and their cushy jobs.

If you think only people with "millions of dollars" are being affected by #metoo hsyteria, you have another thing coming. This nonsense has been building up for decades, at least since the Clarence Thomas "high tech lynching" in early 90s.
Also, since when do campaign staffers make millions.

All those women who got raped/assaulted/harassed should really have some sympathy.

Telling how you conflate rape with "harassment". Especially when so-called "harassment" can be as little as a woman overhearing a joke and, being an oversensitive snowflake, gets offended and makes a huge deal out of it. I mean, have we forgotten Donglegate already?
Also, you are assuming that mere allegation proves that whatever is alleged actually happened. Nobody should lose their job or suffer any other consequences (even minor things like Vanity Fair covers) based merely on unsubstantiated allegations.

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Wow, did I call it. You just can't consider any other political motivations by anyone else.

Again. There has been much #metoo hysteria going around for months, including bringing up old claims. Why should a case linked to Hillary campaign be anything else than regular #metoo past-dredging? Why assume additional "political motivations"? Especially since Hillary isn't running for anything any longer.

 

[LordKiran]

If you think only people with "millions of dollars" are being affected by #metoo hsyteria, you have another thing coming. This nonsense has been building up for decades, at least since the Clarence Thomas "high tech lynching" in early 90s.


Telling how you conflate rape with "harassment". Especially when so-called "harassment" can be as little as a woman overhearing a joke and, being an oversensitive snowflake, gets offended and makes a huge deal out of it. I mean, have we forgotten Donglegate already?

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Wow, did I call it. You just can't consider any other political motivations by anyone else.

Again. There has been much #metoo hysteria going around for months, including bringing up old claims. Why should a case linked to Hillary campaign be anything else than regular #metoo past-dredging? Why assume additional "political motivations"?

Trying to make mountains out of molehills by taking words with heavy connotations like "Lynching" and tying it to whatever bug is pretty scummy. Being made a social pariah is in no way comparable to being tied up like an animal and being clumsily hung by the neck until you die.

 

[Derec]

Trying to make mountains out of molehills

That applies more to cases like saying that asking people on dates or a woman regretting a sexual encounter is "sexual misconduct" or that a woman overhearing a joke is a victim of "sexual harassment" fits that expression much better.

by taking words with heavy connotations like "Lynching" and tying it to whatever bug is pretty scummy. Being made a social pariah is in no way comparable to being tied up like an animal and being clumsily hung by the neck until you die.

Not my words. That's how the victim of the Anita Hill witch hunt described it himself.


It could be argued that Anita Hill started this current regime of hypersensitivity and hysteria over so-called "sexual harassment".