Women groped to a degree that, while stunning to men, is no surprise to women

[Rhea]

https://bigthink.com/sex-relationships/sensor-dress?rebelltitem=1#rebelltitem1

Smart dress groped 157 times in under 4 hours

The data was gathered via a dress Ogilvy designed for the project, called "The Dress for Respect." Hidden all over the apparel were touch and pressure sensors, as well as the means to transmit data via WiFi to researchers in a house next door — they were able to witness all the unwanted invasions in real time.

After capturing all of this groping, Ogilvy presented the results to a group of men, who expressed amazement at all of the groping going on, even laughing at times at some of the ridiculously crass maneuvers.

I remember the video of the woman who just walked in NYC for a day and how many catcalls men did. And the stories of women groped in subways etc.

 

[bigfield]

It's a excellent proof of concept. I think other groups around the world will be eager to repeat this experiment, leading to a body of evidence that covers many cultures and demographics.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

https://bigthink.com/sex-relationships/sensor-dress?rebelltitem=1#rebelltitem1

Smart dress groped 157 times in under 4 hours

The data was gathered via a dress Ogilvy designed for the project, called "The Dress for Respect." Hidden all over the apparel were touch and pressure sensors, as well as the means to transmit data via WiFi to researchers in a house next door — they were able to witness all the unwanted invasions in real time.

After capturing all of this groping, Ogilvy presented the results to a group of men, who expressed amazement at all of the groping going on, even laughing at times at some of the ridiculously crass maneuvers.

I remember the video of the woman who just walked in NYC for a day and how many catcalls men did. And the stories of women groped in subways etc.

This garbage? There's a big difference between what the touching (which the dress registered) and groping (which they show almost none of.)

Crowded place with lots of alcohol--people are going to have inadvertent contact going through the crowd. An awful lot of the touches it recorded appear to be due to this.

Very noisy place--people are going to touch you to get your attention. Many more touches appear to be due to that.

 

[Rhea]

It would be interesting, then, to put the sensors on a man. Loren thinks it would be an identical number of touches in identical places.

I expect it would not be the same at all, given how little men think this happens vs how much women do.
Note, women say this to women, when men are not around, hence it is not that they are trying to get anyone in trouble.

 

[skepticalbip]

It would be interesting, then, to put the sensors on a man. Loren thinks it would be an identical number of touches in identical places.

I expect it would not be the same at all, given how little men think this happens vs how much women do.
Note, women say this to women, when men are not around, hence it is not that they are trying to get anyone in trouble.

I agree that putting the sensors on men would make the "study" more meaningful. It would also be more meaningful if the recorded number of those 157 touchings were by other women was noted. Since this "study" was conducted in Brazil, I have a feeling that the article is a bit misleading since physical contact is much more a cultural norm in Brazil than in the U.S. or Britain.

ETA:
Without a better designed "study", about all that this one shows is that in a crowded social gathering people actually make physical contact with other people.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It would be interesting, then, to put the sensors on a man. Loren thinks it would be an identical number of touches in identical places.

I expect it would not be the same at all, given how little men think this happens vs how much women do.
Note, women say this to women, when men are not around, hence it is not that they are trying to get anyone in trouble.

I agree that putting the sensors on men would make the "study" more meaningful. It would also be more meaningful if the recorded number of those 157 touchings were by other women was noted. Since this "study" was conducted in Brazil, I have a feeling that the article is a bit misleading since physical contact is much more a cultural norm in Brazil than in the U.S. or Britain.

ETA:
Without a better designed "study", about all that this one shows is that in a crowded social gathering people actually make physical contact with other people.

I wouldn't expect the touches to be in the same place unless you find a man and woman of matching heights and widths. I do agree it would be a good control, though.

Without some indication of why the touches occurred this study is useless. We have a situation in which a lot of touching is expected, we got a lot of touching, almost none of which was in sexual areas. Data value, zero.