"Protester" Misconduct Catch All Thread

[SimpleDon]

Is it possible to forego "whataboutisms" just once?

I believe what happened today is the direct outcome of downplaying and justifying rioting/violence from the likes of #BLM. I warned then that if we allow those riots to go on, there is nothing to prevent the Right from using similar tactics.

What happened yesterday was the result of a considerable number of the elected representatives of the people perpetuating the completely unfounded idea that the presidential election was stolen from Trump and that the results of the election should be overthrown. They were trying to completely destroy our democracy.

What happened yesterday was that the completely unhinged Donald Trump incited thousands of people to riot and to storm the capital building. They did. They were trying to completely destroy our democracy.

It had nothing to with BLM or the anti-fascists.

 

[scombrid]

Is it possible to forego "whataboutisms" just once?

I believe what happened today is the direct outcome of downplaying and justifying rioting/violence from the likes of #BLM. I warned then that if we allow those riots to go on, there is nothing to prevent the Right from using similar tactics.

What happened yesterday was the result of a considerable number of the elected representatives of the people perpetuating the completely unfounded idea that the presidential election was stolen from Trump

This is something the bothers me while people like Loefler back track. Look at all the state's attorney's general that sued to overturn Georgia's vote? Look at the Georgia Senate bringing in a known scammer in JH Pulitzer and pretending he was a "cybersecurity expert" with proof that Dominion was controlled by CCP and changed the vote. It wasn't just Rudi and his plucky gang. Rudi had the official stamp of approval for his 'theories' from a hell of a lot of elected officials.

 

[ZiprHead]

Meet DLive: The Livestreaming Platform Used by Trump's Capitol Insurrectionists

Far-right extremists livestreamed on the fringe, youth-targeted gaming website DLive on Wednesday during an unprecedented breach of the U.S. Capitol building that left at least four people dead and others wounded. One of the extremists livestreamed on DLive from the office of Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, Hatewatch observed while monitoring the events.

 

[ZiprHead]

No, facial recognition didn’t confirm antifa infiltrated Trump supporters at the Capitol

Violence roiled the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 as supporters of President Donald Trump stormed the building, some waving Trump flags and wearing Trump attire while Capitol Police ushered lawmakers, press and staffers to safe shelter. But claims wrongly blaming antifa activists for the demonstration are proliferating on social media — and some say they have proof.

"BOOM!" one user posted on Facebook. "IT HAS NOW BEEN CONFIRMED ANTIFA INFILTRATED THE TRUMP RALLY IN DC TODAY!!"

The post shares a screenshot of a headline from a Jan. 6 Washington Times story: "Facial recognition firm claims Antifa infiltrated Trump protesters who stormed Capitol."

The company denied generating "any composites or detection imagery" for the Times or a "retired military officer."

 

[ZiprHead]

[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The OG tweet got deleted but i got the screen grab <a href="https://t.co/gFhzV8iaQP">pic.twitter.com/gFhzV8iaQP</a></p>— hamzito (@HamZaddy_) <a href="https://twitter.com/HamZaddy_/status/1346973828145180678?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]

 

[blastula]

No, facial recognition didn’t confirm antifa infiltrated Trump supporters at the Capitol

Violence roiled the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 as supporters of President Donald Trump stormed the building, some waving Trump flags and wearing Trump attire while Capitol Police ushered lawmakers, press and staffers to safe shelter. But claims wrongly blaming antifa activists for the demonstration are proliferating on social media — and some say they have proof.

"BOOM!" one user posted on Facebook. "IT HAS NOW BEEN CONFIRMED ANTIFA INFILTRATED THE TRUMP RALLY IN DC TODAY!!"

The post shares a screenshot of a headline from a Jan. 6 Washington Times story: "Facial recognition firm claims Antifa infiltrated Trump protesters who stormed Capitol."

The company denied generating "any composites or detection imagery" for the Times or a "retired military officer."

But they did say two of the men "were affiliated with the Maryland Skinheads and the National Socialist Movements." I saw those same pics online reposted a few times, but also saw the proof they were nazis. Yes, bona fide nazis were taking selfies during their ransacking of the Capitol building. These are the very fine people, now "very special" people, unfairly treated people, that Trump loves so much.

 

[repoman]

https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/status/1347076676342185984

This is the shooting from yesterday

 

[Trausti]

No, facial recognition didn’t confirm antifa infiltrated Trump supporters at the Capitol

Violence roiled the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 as supporters of President Donald Trump stormed the building, some waving Trump flags and wearing Trump attire while Capitol Police ushered lawmakers, press and staffers to safe shelter. But claims wrongly blaming antifa activists for the demonstration are proliferating on social media — and some say they have proof.

"BOOM!" one user posted on Facebook. "IT HAS NOW BEEN CONFIRMED ANTIFA INFILTRATED THE TRUMP RALLY IN DC TODAY!!"

The post shares a screenshot of a headline from a Jan. 6 Washington Times story: "Facial recognition firm claims Antifa infiltrated Trump protesters who stormed Capitol."

The company denied generating "any composites or detection imagery" for the Times or a "retired military officer."

Antifa? Pfft. They weren’t that ugly.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

To be fair, it's probably less the skin colour and more the political leanings of the "protesters" that softened the police. A mob of white communist or Islamist sympathisers would arguably have gotten themselves gunned down too, it's only when the protesters have fascist leanings that their friends in the police pose for selfies.

Yup, as usual race is simply a proxy for the real issues.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Everyone in the Capital last night was committing a crime ranging from trespassing to insurrection to even murder and of the thousand or so criminals only 52 were arrested the vast majority of whom were only charged with violating the curfew. Charges that will most likely be dropped as they were in Portland and Seattle.

They were all working together and there were deaths. Sounds like felony murder charges for everyone involved.

 

[Mumbles]

[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The OG tweet got deleted but i got the screen grab <a href="https://t.co/gFhzV8iaQP">pic.twitter.com/gFhzV8iaQP</a></p>— hamzito (@HamZaddy_) <a href="https://twitter.com/HamZaddy_/status/1346973828145180678?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]

You'll love this then:

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/schmoyoho/status/1347053742521262082[/TWEET]

 

[DrZoidberg]

[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The OG tweet got deleted but i got the screen grab <a href="https://t.co/gFhzV8iaQP">pic.twitter.com/gFhzV8iaQP</a></p>— hamzito (@HamZaddy_) <a href="https://twitter.com/HamZaddy_/status/1346973828145180678?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]

OMG that is priceless. She's upset that the police, the defenders of the current regime is trying to prevent a revolution. Hey, lady, it's their actual job description. If a little mace is enough to stop your revolution, I'd say your heart isn't in it

 

[SimpleDon]

To be fair, it's probably less the skin colour and more the political leanings of the "protesters" that softened the police. A mob of white communist or Islamist sympathisers would arguably have gotten themselves gunned down too, it's only when the protesters have fascist leanings that their friends in the police pose for selfies.

Yup, as usual, race is simply a proxy for the real issues.

Yes, it is. The question is why 56 years after the passage of the Civil Rights Act, we can't shake off the affliction of racism. It still consumes all of us, on the right and the left. It is frustrating.

 

[SimpleDon]

Everyone in the Capital last night was committing a crime ranging from trespassing to insurrection to even murder and of the thousand or so criminals only 52 were arrested the vast majority of whom were only charged with violating the curfew. Charges that will most likely be dropped as they were in Portland and Seattle.

They were all working together and there were deaths. Sounds like felony murder charges for everyone involved.

A Capitol Policeman died today from injuries by the protesters. Making felony murder charges even more likely.

The hope is that this clusterfuck will break Trump's and Trumpism's hold on the right. From what I see here it will take some more time.

 

[Gospel]

Holy shit is that woman funny & I thought the caveman cosplaying as a Viking was hilarious. 2021 while kicking off with a an attempted coup in America may not be bad after all.

 

[TomC]

A Capitol Policeman died today from injuries by the protesters. Making felony murder charges even more likely.

There have been conflicting reports on this. Please be careful.
Tom

 

[ronburgundy]

A Capitol Policeman died today from injuries by the protesters. Making felony murder charges even more likely.

There have been conflicting reports on this. Please be careful.
Tom

Can you point to any reliable sources that deny he died of injuries caused by clashing with protestors? Every source I see agrees on those facts, and the most recent stories confirm that a Federal murder investigation is under way.

 

[ronburgundy]

A Capitol Policeman died today from injuries by the protesters. Making felony murder charges even more likely.

There have been conflicting reports on this. Please be careful.
Tom

Can you point to any reliable sources that deny he died of injuries caused by clashing with protestors? Every source I see agrees on those facts, and the most recent stories confirm that a Federal murder investigation is under way.

 

[Gospel]

https://www.uscp.gov/media-center/press-releases/loss-uscp-colleague-brian-d-sicknick

January 7, 2021 Press Release
At approximately 9:30 p.m. this evening (January 7, 2021), United States Capitol Police Officer Brian D. Sicknick passed away due to injuries sustained while on-duty.

Officer Sicknick was responding to the riots on Wednesday, January 6, 2021, at the U.S. Capitol and was injured while physically engaging with protesters. He returned to his division office and collapsed. He was taken to a local hospital where he succumbed to his injuries. The death of Officer Sicknick will be investigated by the Metropolitan Police Department’s Homicide Branch, the USCP, and our federal partners.

Officer Sicknick joined the USCP in July 2008, and most recently served in the Department’s First Responder’s Unit.

The entire USCP Department expresses its deepest sympathies to Officer Sicknick’s family and friends on their loss, and mourns the loss of a friend and colleague.

We ask that Officer Sicknick’s family, and other USCP officers’ and their families’ privacy be respected during this time.

Whatever the reports are he was injured by protester(s). Protester(s) that President Trump told to march to the capital after saying things like

Trump "Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore and that’s what this is all about."

Trump "We will not let them silence your voices. We’re not going to let it happen. Not going to let it happen."

Crowd Chants " Fight for Trump! Fight for Trump! Fight for Trump!"

Need more?

 

[blastula]

No, facial recognition didn’t confirm antifa infiltrated Trump supporters at the Capitol

Antifa? Pfft. They weren’t that ugly.

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