Jimmy Higgins
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And today on Basic American Governance, we discuss the difference between being elected to the House and the Senate.
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And today on Basic American Governance, we discuss the difference between being elected to the House and the Senate.
thebeave
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I thought some smart ass might chime in with that, but I figured they would understand that whether it was the House or Senate was irrelevant to the point I was making. Thanks for not disappointing.
Your "point" was bullshit whataboutism trying to compare two different examples. Don't get butt-hurt just because someone points that out.
jab
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Representing a state, and having your vote be one out of 50, or representing a district, and having your vote being one out of hundreds. It's all good though, eh.
However, as someone from a Parliamentary democracy, I consider the structure and power of your Senate to be altogether outre.
lpetrich
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The small-state delegations wanted per-state representation: the New Jersey Plan.
The large-scale delegations wanted proportional representation: the Virginia Plan.
They decided on the Connecticut Compromise: one proportional chamber, the House, and one per-state chamber, the Senate.
jab, what is the Canadian Senate like? What does it do?
The large-scale delegations wanted proportional representation: the Virginia Plan.
They decided on the Connecticut Compromise: one proportional chamber, the House, and one per-state chamber, the Senate.
jab, what is the Canadian Senate like? What does it do?
And then the small states fucked the large states a second time with the electoral college, using the same bullshit argument twice.
jab
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It is appointed by the government, with a retirement age. It can vet (not veto) legislation and send it back to the House of Commons for reconsideration. It cannot block or veto legislation however. Originally modelled on the British House of Lords, it should be abolished. Canadian Senators tend to vote along ideological lines, but don't have to worry about keeping their jobs and paychecks by sucking up to the voters.
The appointments are to fall along lines of regional/ provincial representation, and one of the fairly recent scandals involved Conservative Senators who were appointed to represent small/ rural provinces where they were born and raised but where, it seems, they had not really lived for decades, having pursued media careers in the media centres of big Canadian cities in big provinces.
DrZoidberg
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Amazingly enough, Trump isn't the dumbest man in America
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/16/us-capitol-rioters-donald-trump-pardons
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/16/us-capitol-rioters-donald-trump-pardons
Swammerdami
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You were swooshed. By now, AOC understands basic civics much better than most of us. She misspoke -- out of carelessness, not ignorance -- and thebeave seizes on the moment, almost making believe that he knows 6th-grade civics that AOC doesn't. Higgins doubled-down on the sarcasm, and thebeave plays on, not even seeming to understanding that he is the butt of the joke.
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I swear, the dumb fucks in this administration and its supporters are treating stupid like a department surplus at the end of a fiscal year. If they don't spend up on all the stupid, it doesn't get rolled over to the next budget.
I swear, the dumb fucks in this administration and its supporters are treating stupid like a department surplus at the end of a fiscal year. If they don't spend up on all the stupid, it doesn't get rolled over to the next budget.
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Some concede early,
Some concede late,
Some concede humbly,
Some concede GREAT!
Some concede graciously,
Some concede bitter,
Some just have a tantrum
Childishly on Twitter.
But quietly or loudly or
No concession at all,
Regime change is coming,
And you knew it last fall.
Some concede late,
Some concede humbly,
Some concede GREAT!
Some concede graciously,
Some concede bitter,
Some just have a tantrum
Childishly on Twitter.
But quietly or loudly or
No concession at all,
Regime change is coming,
And you knew it last fall.
barbos
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She is a woman.
It may feel like an egregious error to not know that the three branches of the government are the Executive, Legislative and Judicial, but I think it is pretty clear that what she is talking about are the three bodies needed for passage of any legislation. It was indeed clumsily said, but I assume that even you, beave, realize there is a need for three distinct bodies needed to be gained to break the deliberate gridlock foisted on the American public by Mitch McConnell.
Well, the rest of us knew what we needed to work our assess off for, anyway. Maybe you thought we needed to work our assess off to get results from the judiciary... but that is not what she meant.
That you took this and decided to toss an insult to her intelligence and consider the sum total of her background to be bartending is as uninformed as you just accused her of being. Why would you think you'd identified a cesspool and decide to publicly jump into it? If she's dumb for saying what she said, why did you decide to copy it?
thebeave
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Going back a couple of pages, I was merely responding to crazyfingers's statement about Sen. Tuberville, in which he said this about him:
Why didn't you come down on crazyfingers for what he said above? All I was doing was mocking his statement and pointing out a very similar example to his, but on the Democrat side of the aisle. What's good for goose is good for gander and all that. Not only does he demean Tuberville's previous occupational experience, but he demeans the intelligence of those who voted for him, which is kinda uncool. If his voters are stupid, then by the same token, AOC's voters are stupid.
DrZoidberg
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That's what they want you to think
Swammerdami
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Again, you continue to miss the point that Tuberville appears to be significantly more ignorant than Ocasio-Cortez. If you'd clicked the link in the post you responded to, you'd have found this:
Sure, there are plenty of Republicans smarter than plenty of good-spirited Americans. But "counting points" among top politicians will be a losing battle for you. Wasn't it the Republican Chairman of a Committee relevant to climate change that smugly displayed a glass of ice-water as proof that oceans won't rise?
The Colourful Jester
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I'm counting this from the time of the Inauguration televised here in West Aust, but what the heck.
There has been 1 days without incident.
There has been 1 days without incident.
Again, you continue to miss the point that Tuberville appears to be significantly more ignorant than Ocasio-Cortez. If you'd clicked the link in the post you responded to, you'd have found this:
Sure, there are plenty of Republicans smarter than plenty of good-spirited Americans. But "counting points" among top politicians will be a losing battle for you. Wasn't it the Republican Chairman of a Committee relevant to climate change that smugly displayed a glass of ice-water as proof that oceans won't rise?
Ya. I actually asked each of my kids separately, HS Junior, HS grad gap year, College Freshman to name the branches of government and they got it right. The question is on the US Citizenship test to become a Naturalized citizen. I'd hope that a US Senator would be able to pass the citizenship test but in this case I guess not.
marc
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Amazing! I actually scrolled down Huffington Post front page last night and didn't see any mention of Trump at all... so strange... so comforting
DrZoidberg
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It's a bit sad that we don't have his idiotic tweets to laugh at anymore. It certainly brought the whole world together, in hatred of one man.
BTW, I was reading about Clement Atlee, the man who made Great Britain a socialist state and who dismantled the British Empire. What stood out what other prime minsters said about him. When Churchill was asked he said that Clement Atlee was incredibly effective in the War Cabinet during the war. Thatcher said "Of Clement Attlee, however, I was an admirer. He was a serious man and a patriot. Quite contrary to the general tendency of politicians in the 1990s, he was all substance and no show".
This is people talking about their greatest enemies and the person they think did the most harm to the British economy. This is them putting a lid on their hatred and only saying nice things about a person they had no ideological connection to.
Those were the days. Trump was certainly a different kind of president.
BTW, I was reading about Clement Atlee, the man who made Great Britain a socialist state and who dismantled the British Empire. What stood out what other prime minsters said about him. When Churchill was asked he said that Clement Atlee was incredibly effective in the War Cabinet during the war. Thatcher said "Of Clement Attlee, however, I was an admirer. He was a serious man and a patriot. Quite contrary to the general tendency of politicians in the 1990s, he was all substance and no show".
This is people talking about their greatest enemies and the person they think did the most harm to the British economy. This is them putting a lid on their hatred and only saying nice things about a person they had no ideological connection to.
Those were the days. Trump was certainly a different kind of president.