Jarhyn
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"They are too young to know what they want!"Wow. So we are clear now, you are the one that brought "unconsenting" into this.
It is very bad faith to characterize "Please help me do this to my body or let me do it to myself, or I believe my life is not going to be worth living" as "unconsenting".
It is unconsenting for roughly the same reasons as "Please let me continue my sexual relationship with my 40 year old middle-school gym teacher because he's a nice man who makes me feel good. I love him and if I can't be with him anymore, my life isn't worth living." is also unconsenting.
You know, this first argument sounds like the very reason we don't let kids have sex: because they are too young to understand it.
The thing is, when something happens and is forced on someone too young to understand, generally, well, that's the reason pedophilia is special among evil acts.
So when we have no choice but for something to happen, when people express at that age a desire for a specific thing to happen, and when not only is it in our power to fulfill some of that in what we do let happen to them but also even have power to delay this onset so that they may consider... And then we force upon them an immediate and irreversible outcome that is none of those things, but exactly what they do not want...
Well, that carries that same burden as "pedophilia".
Congratulations, if this describes you, you want to rape a child with an unwanted puberty. I did a mental exercise to compare it to an unwanted rape pregnancy but they're both just completely fucked up.
It's a good thing then that we are talking in this context specifically about the ones who don't That you are willing to ignore this for the sake of how your proposed designs need to be implemented does not particularly speak well of the proposal in question."They will be sterilized!"
I could give a shit less of a fuck. They can adopt if they want a kid.
The fact that you don't give a shit about having children that are genetically related to you is irrelevant given that this is a discussion of proposed public policy and a remarkably large number of people do happen to give a shit about that.
Whether or not you give a shit is completely irrelevant on the proposed public policy front because, last time I checked, I'm pretty sure you aren't The Rightful God-Emperor of Humanity.