MLKj and Viet Nam War (split from How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[steve_bank]

You can probaly find the film clip where he states expelicitly he would not go to fight Asian people who did nothing to him. He lost everything he had taking that stand. For that I admire Ali regardless of anything else.

I agree about Ali, but the question as I understood it was whether Republicans (writ large) would reject Tucker Carlson as they have rejected Ali.
NOT HAPPENING.

Ok. There is no shortage on hypocrisy. Probably not. Carlson has a lahge audience and has influnce.Trump has thoroughly corrupted the republicans.

Note during the VN War MLK was criticized by some blacks for not supporting the war.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Note during the VN War MLK was criticized by some blacks for not supporting the war.

Really? Do you have a cite, of blacks supporting the Viet Nam war and thinking MLK should?

I remember he was criticized for opposing the war, but that was because it diluted the civil rights message. They thought he should have stayed out of that fight completely. Didn't know anyone expected him to support our involvement.

 

[TomC]

Note during the VN War MLK was criticized by some blacks for not supporting the war.

Really? Do you have a cite, of blacks supporting the Viet Nam war and thinking MLK should?

I remember he was criticized for opposing the war, but that was because it diluted the civil rights message. They thought he should have stayed out of that fight completely. Didn't know anyone expected him to support our involvement.

I haven't got cites, but I remember him seriously criticizing war in general and that one in particular.
But then, as now, black people weren't a monolithic group.
Tom

 

[Keith&Co.]

Note during the VN War MLK was criticized by some blacks for not supporting the war.

Really? Do you have a cite, of blacks supporting the Viet Nam war and thinking MLK should?

I remember he was criticized for opposing the war, but that was because it diluted the civil rights message. They thought he should have stayed out of that fight completely. Didn't know anyone expected him to support our involvement.

I haven't got cites, but I remember him seriously criticizing war in general and that one in particular.

Yeah, i wasn't questioning that. Steve keeps throwing up these 'both sides' examples, and i don't recall anyone saying MLK SHOULD have supported the war. There were a lot of civil rights people fearing he'd be called Marxist, and thus the civil rights movment portrayed as Marxism, for opposing it, though.

 

[Copernicus]

Note during the VN War MLK was criticized by some blacks for not supporting the war.

Really? Do you have a cite, of blacks supporting the Viet Nam war and thinking MLK should?

I remember he was criticized for opposing the war, but that was because it diluted the civil rights message. They thought he should have stayed out of that fight completely. Didn't know anyone expected him to support our involvement.

I haven't got cites, but I remember him seriously criticizing war in general and that one in particular.

Yeah, i wasn't questioning that. Steve keeps throwing up these 'both sides' examples, and i don't recall anyone saying MLK SHOULD have supported the war. There were a lot of civil rights people fearing he'd be called Marxist, and thus the civil rights movment portrayed as Marxism, for opposing it, though.

MLK was an advocate for Gandhi's style of nonviolence (satyagraha), which opposed all forms of violence. However, Gandhi did support taking sides in some wars, at least in the form of humanitarian activities such as medical aid. The problem with Vietnam was that it was a war in general, not in particular. And those who were being drafted tended to be the ones least able to qualify for exemptions, so African Americans tended to end up fighting there in larger numbers as conscripts. So there was a racial component to it. MLK was criticized by some elements of the Black Power movement for not being in favor of the use of violence to fight oppression domestically.