Recent content by JonA

Who is "they"?

Now you're just stalling. That link says nothing about pipelines at all. That's hardly relevant since DAPL isn't such a line. Not at all. And you've even repeated again exactly what I've understood your argument to be: ... the existing pipeline structure can handle and is being used to...

You said, specifically: ... just as we use it (existing pipeline infrastructure) now to handle the current oil glut. You can either present something to support this claim or you can retract it. But our discussion will not advance until you do one of those things. You cannot simply make...

None of that has anything to do with your claim that existing pipelines are able to meet the transportation demands of increased oil production in North Dakota. That claim is so obviously wrong that you've now apparently given up any attempts to support it in favor of Gish galloping onto more...

By getting rid of the long-outdated economic system that requires every person to labor forty hours a week to provide themselves a standard of living that hasn't really improved in nearly fifty years.

No. We cannot. You are just plain wrong about this. Except that we don't. We use trains. You are wrong about this. I get it: Expose everyone else to the risk. You have officially made the jump from ignorant to evil. A false dichotomy - as anyone who's investigated the matter well...

The claim was made that we can use existing pipeline infrastructure to transport the oil that would otherwise go through DAPL. Snark all you want. That claim is false.

We aren't talking about supply of oil meeting demand; we're talking about supply of pipelines meeting the demand for transporting the oil. Right now they cannot meet that demand and the slack is being picked up by rail cars.

That's not a proposal. That's just a gripe. So what do you actually propose? Be specific.

If the current lines could carry the load, they'd be carrying it. There are two ways to update a pipeline/route to move more volume: a) dig up the current pipes and lay bigger ones, or b) lay new pipe next to the current pipes. So which option do you like and which lines do you want to upgrade?

Then what is your proposal?

If existing pipelines could meet the demand, they'd already be meeting it.

Language is the natural result of two human brains attempting to communicate.

The Anti-Pipeline Argument is Evil on it's Face If we don't get the oil from anywhere, then we need a replacement. The welfare of billions of people is dependent on the energy we get from oil. We don't have a replacement. So it is only moral that we continue to use oil to provide for the...

I haven't seen it. Could you post the link for my sake?