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How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

Another video from Arestovich.
Again, he was a main adviser to Zelensky, I repeat MAIN ADVISER to president Zelensky.
In this video he warns ukrainian government that their plan to leave to the West is not as safe as they think, reminding what happened to leaders of Chehnya.
For all intents and purposes Arestovich is a russian "propagandist" now.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
I don't trust any Ukrainian or Russian sourced video.
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You do have to admit though - their CGI is getting better!
Meanwhile, back in REALITY...

New footage appears to show 23 Russian tanks and IFVs destroyed on a 'road of death' by Ukrainian paratroopers​

The 79th Air Assault Brigade published a compilation video that appeared to depict some 23 Russian armored vehicles and tanks being destroyed and smoking at the side of a country road.

Ukrainian troops refer to the area as the 'road of death' because of Russia's continued losses in the region.
Further clips appear to show Russian soldiers attempting to escape from strike drones, clambering out of their tanks and hiding behind mounds of soil. Many are then hit again.
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Lucky ones like babs get to come here and spread lies while their countrymen are ground to burger bits in Pootey's "three day military exercise".
What a life, eh babs? Must make you proud to be a small part of the mighty Russian propaganda machine. So much safer than being part of anything REAL.

Pootey should have started with this crap instead of waiting until it was too late to save his empire:

Mock News Sites With Russian Ties Pop Up in U.S​

“Into the depleted field of journalism in America, a handful of websites have appeared in recent weeks with names suggesting a focus on news close to home: D.C. Weekly, the New York News Daily, the Chicago Chronicle and a newer sister publication, the Miami Chronicle,” the New York Times reports.

“In fact, they are not local news organizations at all. They are Russian creations, researchers and government officials say, meant to mimic actual news organizations to push Kremlin propaganda by interspersing it among an at-times odd mix of stories about crime, politics and culture.”
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Of course these efforts are done so poorly (even AI can't keep a Russian from sounding Russian, even in print!) that only the dumbest of Republican Q-tards will fall for it.
That might be enough, there being so many of them, but I doubt it.
 
I've noticed the proliferation of odd names for "news sources". Never click on them.
 
US to send new weapons package worth $300 million for Ukraine
U.S. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan said the funding was coming from unanticipated cost savings from Pentagon contracts and would be used for artillery rounds and munitions for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS).
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Okay. I'm not even buying that. Whatever. As long as they could scrape together a few hundred million.
U.S. officials have also looked at options for seizing some $285 billion in Russian assets immobilized in 2022 and using the money to pay for Ukraine weaponry.
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I wish they could make this happen already. Get as much munitions transferred from the US and this money out of US hands before the end of the year, just in case the Orange Idiot ends up back in office.
 
I'm perhaps a bit slow, but the idea that Ukraine is full of Nazis was a story planted by Russian propaganda before the attack, in order to justify the attack. Barbos has just been repeating Putin's propaganda line. Something we knew, right from the first moment, was utter bullshit. We also knew that the ethnically Russian "freedom fighters" fighting against Nazi oppression in East Ukraine, were always just regular Russian soldiers.

Anyway... I thought Barbos was a conspiracy theorist. But it's worse. He doesn't even have that degree of imagination. Just a Putin propaganda puppet. I now have even less respect for Barbos
 
Oh, look 28/2 Transinistria officially asked Russia for help in their fight against their Moldovan "oppressors". It's an exact copy of the method by which Putin is trying to snag Ukraine. It's so important that we stop Putin now. Or we're looking ahead to a decade of instability and war.

www.aljazeera.com

Transnistria tensions: Will Russia try to annex Moldova’s breakaway region?

Pro-Russian rebels hint at a referendum, a move Moldova has dismissed as meaningless propaganda.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com

But I do like that now when USA isn't giving Ukraine as much weapons anymore, finally, EU countries are now stepping up and being serious about sending stuff. France is even sending troops. Not combat troops on the front. But it is a step in the right direction. I welcome NATO boots on the ground. Fuck Putin so much
 
DrZoidberg said:
I'm perhaps a bit slow, but the idea that Ukraine is full of Nazis was a story planted by Russian propaganda before the attack, in order to justify the attack. Barbos has just been repeating Putin's propaganda line. Something we knew, right from the first moment, was utter bullshit. We also knew that the ethnically Russian "freedom fighters" fighting against Nazi oppression in East Ukraine, were always just regular Russian soldiers.

Anyway... I thought Barbos was a conspiracy theorist. But it's worse. He doesn't even have that degree of imagination. Just a Putin propaganda puppet. I now have even less respect for Barbos
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Dude, I served in Soviet Army with Ukrainians, hungarians and romanians (all from Ukraine) and ...... latvians.

You don't know shit about Ukraine, and all your media are pathological liars. Everything you repeat here is a lie, starting with "unprovoked aggression"
I just posted fucking Arestovich who literally says "Oh we fucking provoked all of that".
 
DrZoidberg said:
But I do like that now when USA isn't giving Ukraine as much weapons anymore, finally, EU countries are now stepping up and being serious about sending stuff. France is even sending troops. Not combat troops on the front. But it is a step in the right direction. I welcome NATO boots on the ground. Fuck Putin so much
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Fucking Napoleon is not going to send anybody, but if he does, they should be immediately exterminated.
 
DrZoidberg said:
I'm perhaps a bit slow, but the idea that Ukraine is full of Nazis was a story planted by Russian propaganda before the attack, in order to justify the attack. Barbos has just been repeating Putin's propaganda line. Something we knew, right from the first moment, was utter bullshit. We also knew that the ethnically Russian "freedom fighters" fighting against Nazi oppression in East Ukraine, were always just regular Russian soldiers.

Anyway... I thought Barbos was a conspiracy theorist. But it's worse. He doesn't even have that degree of imagination. Just a Putin propaganda puppet. I now have even less respect for Barbos
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It's interesting to me to wonder how many Russians agree with Barbos. Based on what I read, my purely non-scientific guess is between 30 to 40%. It's roughly the same estimate as the amount of hard core MAGA conspiracy kooks in the US. It's so absurd that anyone would believe that the west has all these Nazis who want to invade Russia! But we have our crazy conspiracies also. The scary thing here is how easy it is to manipulate a large group of people to do your bidding on such flimsy evidence.
 
DrZoidberg said:
Oh, look 28/2 Transinistria officially asked Russia for help in their fight against their Moldovan "oppressors". It's an exact copy of the method by which Putin is trying to snag Ukraine. It's so important that we stop Putin now. Or we're looking ahead to a decade of instability and war.

www.aljazeera.com

Transnistria tensions: Will Russia try to annex Moldova’s breakaway region?

Pro-Russian rebels hint at a referendum, a move Moldova has dismissed as meaningless propaganda.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com

But I do like that now when USA isn't giving Ukraine as much weapons anymore, finally, EU countries are now stepping up and being serious about sending stuff. France is even sending troops. Not combat troops on the front. But it is a step in the right direction. I welcome NATO boots on the ground. Fuck Putin so much
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The above would-be great news. Ukraine and all the countries that border Russia need substantially more defensive weapons. Putler isn't going to stop until the defenses against Russia are strong enough to encourage Russia to seek alternative hobbies.
 
Apparently Pentagon fired ukrainian Air Defence guy, for the string of spectacular losses of Patriot systems (along with american operators)
 
Harry Bosch said:
DrZoidberg said:
Oh, look 28/2 Transinistria officially asked Russia for help in their fight against their Moldovan "oppressors". It's an exact copy of the method by which Putin is trying to snag Ukraine. It's so important that we stop Putin now. Or we're looking ahead to a decade of instability and war.

www.aljazeera.com

Transnistria tensions: Will Russia try to annex Moldova’s breakaway region?

Pro-Russian rebels hint at a referendum, a move Moldova has dismissed as meaningless propaganda.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com

But I do like that now when USA isn't giving Ukraine as much weapons anymore, finally, EU countries are now stepping up and being serious about sending stuff. France is even sending troops. Not combat troops on the front. But it is a step in the right direction. I welcome NATO boots on the ground. Fuck Putin so much
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The above would-be great news. Ukraine and all the countries that border Russia need substantially more defensive weapons. Putler isn't going to stop until the defenses against Russia are strong enough to encourage Russia to seek alternative hobbies.
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US Intelligence disagrees with you
 
barbos said:
Harry Bosch said:
DrZoidberg said:
Oh, look 28/2 Transinistria officially asked Russia for help in their fight against their Moldovan "oppressors". It's an exact copy of the method by which Putin is trying to snag Ukraine. It's so important that we stop Putin now. Or we're looking ahead to a decade of instability and war.

www.aljazeera.com

Transnistria tensions: Will Russia try to annex Moldova’s breakaway region?

Pro-Russian rebels hint at a referendum, a move Moldova has dismissed as meaningless propaganda.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com

But I do like that now when USA isn't giving Ukraine as much weapons anymore, finally, EU countries are now stepping up and being serious about sending stuff. France is even sending troops. Not combat troops on the front. But it is a step in the right direction. I welcome NATO boots on the ground. Fuck Putin so much
Click to expand...
The above would-be great news. Ukraine and all the countries that border Russia need substantially more defensive weapons. Putler isn't going to stop until the defenses against Russia are strong enough to encourage Russia to seek alternative hobbies.
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US Intelligence disagrees with you
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??? Okay you tell us what would make Putler stop the invasion. You've said it yourself many many times in this forum that Russia isn't really interested in peace talks. Your side wants to conquer all of Ukraine. All of it. And your side wants more: Moldova, Poland, Lithuania, Baltic states and more.
 
Harry Bosch said:
It's interesting to me to wonder how many Russians agree with Barbos.
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That's not the question you should be asking now. The question you should be asking is how many ukrainians agree with barbos. Considering that Arestovich agrees with me now.
There has never been any doubts in Russia that we are right. The only question was, can we actually do that - defeat collective West in Ukraine? The answer is Yes, we can and we are winning.
 
Harry Bosch said:
DrZoidberg said:
I'm perhaps a bit slow, but the idea that Ukraine is full of Nazis was a story planted by Russian propaganda before the attack, in order to justify the attack. Barbos has just been repeating Putin's propaganda line. Something we knew, right from the first moment, was utter bullshit. We also knew that the ethnically Russian "freedom fighters" fighting against Nazi oppression in East Ukraine, were always just regular Russian soldiers.

Anyway... I thought Barbos was a conspiracy theorist. But it's worse. He doesn't even have that degree of imagination. Just a Putin propaganda puppet. I now have even less respect for Barbos
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It's interesting to me to wonder how many Russians agree with Barbos. Based on what I read, my purely non-scientific guess is between 30 to 40%. It's roughly the same estimate as the amount of hard core MAGA conspiracy kooks in the US. It's so absurd that anyone would believe that the west has all these Nazis who want to invade Russia! But we have our crazy conspiracies also. The scary thing here is how easy it is to manipulate a large group of people to do your bidding on such flimsy evidence.
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Flimsy evidence or purely on emotional appeal.
 
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