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Is Satan being present in many places at once Biblical?

Learner said:
Funny enough there was a sermon I heard. The preacher said (paraphrasing) " We can't blame satan all the time (direct influence). 'He can't be everywhere at the same time'. It's those snares you got to watch out for that he's laid and left all about.
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Why can't Satan be everywhere at once? Sounds like you are inventing theology out of thin air, or maybe god told you?
 
If it's invisible (and inaudible, intangible, etc.), you can make it do whatever you want. It can fit any story and you can rationalize it around any obstacle. That there is the beauty of faith.
 
Learner said:
Funny enough there was a sermon I heard. The preacher said (paraphrasing) " We can't blame satan all the time (direct influence). 'He can't be everywhere at the same time'. It's those snares you got to watch out for that he's laid and left all about.
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Gotta love rhetorical nonsense. You can't blame Satan all the time, he is responsible for everything bad we've done.
 
steve_bank said:
Learner said:
Funny enough there was a sermon I heard. The preacher said (paraphrasing) " We can't blame satan all the time (direct influence). 'He can't be everywhere at the same time'. It's those snares you got to watch out for that he's laid and left all about.
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Why can't Satan be everywhere at once? Sounds like you are inventing theology out of thin air, or maybe god told you?
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Are you (plural) running out of argument material based on incorrect and now redundant theology invented by atheists? Another one bites the dust.

You'd be mistaken on both counts of course. Stating the obvious, I'm not inventing anything because I'm agreeing with the preacher, and .. it has always been the understanding to believers that only God can be all powerful, and be in 'all places' at once i.e. satan is not God.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
Learner said:
Funny enough there was a sermon I heard. The preacher said (paraphrasing) " We can't blame satan all the time (direct influence). 'He can't be everywhere at the same time'. It's those snares you got to watch out for that he's laid and left all about.
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Gotta love rhetorical nonsense. You can't blame Satan all the time, he is responsible for everything bad we've done.
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Satan being blamed for all bad things (starting from Eden) is contextually just a 'technically speaking' response, not in line with the actual context of my post regarding the 'willing choice actions' to do or not to do bad things... and that's without satan.
 
Elixir said:
God was there when satan’s snares were laid so he knows where they are. If he is omnibenevolent, we shouldn’t have to “watch out” for any of it.
I know god is really only benevolent about some things, and has a pretty short fuse about others, so at the end of the day, you just have to trust in god that god isn’t going to let you fall into Satan’s trap, and if he does, he’s getting back at you for something you did before. After you fall into Satan’s traps enough times you qualify for unending torture in the Mar-a-Fuego, if you know what I mean.
So whatever you originally did to piss god off was probably a bad mistake. I’ve heard that you can appeal the case, and if you are contrite enough they might reduce the penalty to having to listen to harp music all day every day while sitting on and watching clouds with religious morons. All day. Forever. And ever. Until you are begging to be back home in the Mar-a-Fuego, enduring only physical discomfort from the fahr.
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Christians get harp music 24/7? That's the only reward I-Am-That-I-Am is offering for not lusting after thy neighbor's ass?
What exactly is Satan offering as the alternative? I'm not fond of torture, but I can't stand boredom.

Anyway I thought I-Am-That-I-Am was the same god as Allah of the Muslims. Why do they get to ...
Koran said:
... recline on jewelled couches face to face, and there shall wait on them immortal youths with bowls and ewers and a cup of purest wine (that will neither pain their heads nor take away their reason); with fruits of their own choice and flesh of fowls that they relish. And theirs shall be the dark-eyed houris, chaste as hidden pearls: a guerdon for their deeds... We created the houris and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand... Dark-eyed virgins sheltered in their tents (which of your Lord's blessings would you deny?) whom neither man nor jinnee will have touched before.
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Swammerdami said:

Christians get harp music 24/7? That's the only reward I-Am-That-I-Am is offering for not lusting after thy neighbor's ass?
What exactly is Satan offering as the alternative? I'm not fond of torture, but I can't stand boredom.


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Heaven: apparently, an eternity of being in the Divine Presence, although some fantasists think it'll be a huge never-ending picnic with all their dead relatives and pets (right, like I'd give up Seinfeld reruns for that.) The reality, like you say, would be massive boredom, having to express adoration all day. Imagine keeping a frozen, rapturous smile on your face forever, like some assignment as an eternal kindergarten teacher, while you know you mustn't ask any questions ("Tell me again, why did you kill those kids with she-bears?") And it would be worse than that. You'd have the Grahams, Swaggart and Swaggart Jr., Tammy Faye, Falwell and eventually Oprah up there, trying to push through the crowd and get closest to You Know Who.
Falwell: Make way, everyone, let me through. (Throws an old lady aside.) God! It's my pleasure to see you again! I brought you some myrrh, some Southern barbecue like we used to make at Liberty Baptist, and..
Oprah: (bellows) And..it's...OOOOOPRAH!! Here today with a special hour with the God you love and the God you've always wanted to talk to and SURPRISES for EVERYONNNNE!!
Tammy Faye: Ohhh, God...(weeps, throws herself at His three feet) (don't ask)...oh, God, I'm unworthy, you're the goddiest god that ever was...(begins to sing) Like a fresh spring mornin', like a baby's smile, Let's go to Heav'n, 'n' plunk down for a while...
Oprah: Ooh, someone best get this bitch out of my way.

Hell: warmer, but more variety. The kind of people that know how to get down, who couldn't pull a phony "Love You!" if they tried, and they don't. People who, what you see is what you get. You think Sam Kinison was funny on earth? Wait 'til you hear his howls and screeching F-bombs when he really has stuff to unload. You think Janis could sing the paint off a wall? Wait 'til you get to see her live in hell. You think Trump was a never-ending clown show? Wait 'til you hear his rallies for the dumber residents of hell. Special guest, Manson, who Trump will introduce as 'Someone who knew how to get things done, let me tell you. There weren't any arguments because HE told them what to do!' I can't wait. You're allowed to bring one thing. Make it your autograph book.
 
Learner said:
steve_bank said:
Learner said:
Funny enough there was a sermon I heard. The preacher said (paraphrasing) " We can't blame satan all the time (direct influence). 'He can't be everywhere at the same time'. It's those snares you got to watch out for that he's laid and left all about.
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Why can't Satan be everywhere at once? Sounds like you are inventing theology out of thin air, or maybe god told you?
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Are you (plural) running out of argument material based on incorrect and now redundant theology invented by atheists? Another one bites the dust.

You'd be mistaken on both counts of course. Stating the obvious, I'm not inventing anything because I'm agreeing with the preacher, and .. it has always been the understanding to believers that only God can be all powerful, and be in 'all places' at once i.e. satan is not God.
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Whether you realize it or not you are demonstrating how Christianity formed and how beliefs came to be. Along with how conflicts arose between Christians on theology.
p,body imagines what a few words in scripture 'means'; and it gets repeated. Eventually it becomes 'the word of god'.

I say birth control is wrong because it is what god wants. "It is what god wants' is a common Christian saying used to justify a personal view.

Interpretation and invention is what keeps Christians in that feel good ecstatic state.

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it has always been the understanding to believers that only God can be all powerful, and be in 'all places' at once i.e. satan is not God.
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Always generally understood? Exactly the point I am making. You believe that because you hear it in the Christian culture you grew into into. A form of brain washing. Repeated messaging becomes taken as truth. The basis of modern video and radio marketing and adverting.

If we play a word association game and I say cola soft drink over here people will likely say Coke or Pepsi without knowing tey have been conditioned by advertisng ince a yiung age..

How did Rastafarians in the Caribbean come to belve the dead Afrcan leader of EthiopiHaili Selassie is a messiah?

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Rastafari - Wikipedia

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Haile Selassie, the Emperor of Ethiopia between 1930 and 1974. He is of central importance to Rastas, many of whom regard him as the Second Coming of Jesus and thus God incarnate in human form. From its origins, Rastafari was intrinsically linked with Haile Selassie, the Emperor of Ethiopia from 1930 to 1974.
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Learner said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
Learner said:
Funny enough there was a sermon I heard. The preacher said (paraphrasing) " We can't blame satan all the time (direct influence). 'He can't be everywhere at the same time'. It's those snares you got to watch out for that he's laid and left all about.
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Gotta love rhetorical nonsense. You can't blame Satan all the time, he is responsible for everything bad we've done.
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Satan being blamed for all bad things (starting from Eden) is contextually just a 'technically speaking' response, not in line with the actual context of my post regarding the 'willing choice actions' to do or not to do bad things... and that's without satan.
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What are you talking about? I was paraphrasing your paraphrased quote.
Learner said:
The preacher said (paraphrasing) " We can't blame satan all the time (direct influence). 'He can't be everywhere at the same time'. It's those snares you got to watch out for that he's laid and left all about.
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He can't be everywhere at the same time.
Got it, Satan isn't everywhere so when we do something wrong, it wasn't Satan.

It's those snares you got to watch out for that he' laid and left all about.
Wait... so when we do something wrong, it was either Satan or the snare Satan left about, so either way it is Satan.

And this is also the ridiculousness of explaining why bad stuff happens. Well Satan made it happen (directly or indirectly whatever the heck that means). No, not Satan, humans. Start owning up to your own failings instead of blaming some imaginary creature.
 
I was listening to a youtube video in which a rabbi explained why the snake wanted to make man and woman fall. We are not told till Revelation that the snake was the devil, and since Jews don't accept the book of Revelation as scripture came to a different conclusion about what the snakes grievance was. The snake was jealous that Adam did not pick it as its mate. The snake was intelligent and had a personality and though it would have been a perfect mate for Adam. When Adam didn't choose it became enraged and bitterly jealous of Eve and wanted to destroy her.
 
BH said:
I was listening to a youtube video in which a rabbi explained why the snake wanted to make man and woman fall. We are not told till Revelation that the snake was the devil, and since Jews don't accept the book of Revelation as scripture came to a different conclusion about what the snakes grievance was. The snake was jealous that Adam did not pick it as its mate. The snake was intelligent and had a personality and though it would have been a perfect mate for Adam. When Adam didn't choose it became enraged and bitterly jealous of Eve and wanted to destroy her.
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Well that's vastly more sensible and reasonable. I am astonished that the Christians didn't pick up on this obvious truth. :rolleyesa:
 
People ask the weirdest questions. What was the snake's motive? Why did the snake tell woman the fruit was safe to eat and it wouldn't kill her... and then the woman ate the fruit and died. Wait... that didn't happen. The snake didn't lie.

So we really need to ask why did God lie about the fruit? Gen 3:22 gives us a hint... because he is dick.
 
The lengths people will go to force fitting ancient, primitive, writings to serve their own ideology is endless.
Tom
 
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