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Meh. Everything is scary stuff to right wingers.
Flights cancelled? Scary stuff. Patients turned away from hospitals? Scary stuff. Gotta wait on your supermarket purchase. Scary stuff.
FUKKING BRANDON@!!!
Maybe Crowdstrike will pay for your therapy?
Ah, it's all a bunch of nothing!
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I'm sure RayJ will have another well deserved rant about Microsoft at the board meeting sunday night.
steve_bank
Diabetic retinopathy and poor eyesight. Typos ...
That is what happens when there is a global contrition in one complex system,
In the 80s when I was in Portland the Beaverton phone company installed an update, and it crashed.
It turned out that somebody at the system manufacturer deleted code that seemed to do nothing,put the code back in and it was fine.
In the 80s when I was in Portland the Beaverton phone company installed an update, and it crashed.
It turned out that somebody at the system manufacturer deleted code that seemed to do nothing,put the code back in and it was fine.
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steve_bank
Diabetic retinopathy and poor eyesight. Typos ...
C++ can be used to write fast efficient reliable code, but it depends on the coder. C\C++ allows a lot of freedom.
When I worked at an avionics company in the 90s the embedded language was a government certified Ada compiler. Customers were Boeing and Airbus among others.
Ada is used in high reliability applications, it is very restrictive on how coding is done at least compared to C++.
That it was apparently untested is a quality issue.
Starting in the 90s there have been software development standards including documentation, revision control, and release procedures.
At the avionics company a software build was an multi-day event. There were documents that defined the build process. An independent quality group ran a separate build using documentation, installed it, and made sure it ran right. The equipment would be tested on a test system.
When I worked at an avionics company in the 90s the embedded language was a government certified Ada compiler. Customers were Boeing and Airbus among others.
Ada is used in high reliability applications, it is very restrictive on how coding is done at least compared to C++.
That it was apparently untested is a quality issue.
Starting in the 90s there have been software development standards including documentation, revision control, and release procedures.
At the avionics company a software build was an multi-day event. There were documents that defined the build process. An independent quality group ran a separate build using documentation, installed it, and made sure it ran right. The equipment would be tested on a test system.
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At Yosemite NP, I had a whole other YNP I could test stuff out on before I sent it out to the actual one. Crowdstrike should do that.
*To think, I was a hare’s breath from investing in CRWD. Can’t believe I missed the opportunity. I’m slipping.
*To think, I was a hare’s breath from investing in CRWD. Can’t believe I missed the opportunity. I’m slipping.
lpetrich
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Null pointer and Stale pointer bug and Dangling pointerIn plain C, if one is not VERY careful with pointers, one will suffer nasty bugs.
But a null value is very convenient for indicating the absence of an object, and many programming languages support null objects: "null", "nil", "None", "Null", ... Attempting to access their contents will create an exception, and one can catch that exception if one so desires, though it's better to check in advance on whether some object is a null object.
An alternative is an "optional" object: std::option - Rust and Optional | Apple Developer Documentation It was recently introduced into C++: std::optional - cppreference.com
lpetrich
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History of C++ | Perforce
It was created in the early 1980's as a way of importing nice features of an earlier programming language, Simula, into C, and it was originally called "C with classes" and was soon renamed to its present name. In 1991, it acquired templates, a watershed in that language's design, and in 1998, the first version of the Standard Template Library (STL). It got some big advances in 2011, and then in 2020.
I call templates a watershed, because it enables smart pointers and container classes that do not need rewriting for every data type that one wants to support.
Smart pointers are objects that imitate pointers, and that contain pointers. When a smart pointer is created, it allocates a block of memory for its pointer and it may initialize that block, and when it goes out of scope, it deallocates that block.
Container classes are an expansion of smart pointers for lists of data items. I've found them very valuable.
For C++, one can avoid most risk of pointer bugs by using smart pointers and container classes.
It was created in the early 1980's as a way of importing nice features of an earlier programming language, Simula, into C, and it was originally called "C with classes" and was soon renamed to its present name. In 1991, it acquired templates, a watershed in that language's design, and in 1998, the first version of the Standard Template Library (STL). It got some big advances in 2011, and then in 2020.
I call templates a watershed, because it enables smart pointers and container classes that do not need rewriting for every data type that one wants to support.
Smart pointers are objects that imitate pointers, and that contain pointers. When a smart pointer is created, it allocates a block of memory for its pointer and it may initialize that block, and when it goes out of scope, it deallocates that block.
Container classes are an expansion of smart pointers for lists of data items. I've found them very valuable.
For C++, one can avoid most risk of pointer bugs by using smart pointers and container classes.
lpetrich
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Why C++? It's designed to continue some nice feature of C: little or no object-management overhead, and compile-time typing. Both features enable high performance.
C and C++ are also often used for device drivers. This kind of software uses pointers to memory addresses that were assigned to I/O devices - a device driver reads in by reading from those addresses and that software writes out by writing to those addresses. So one needs to use pointers to memory locations rather than hiding them, which is what most high-level languages do.
C and C++ are also often used for device drivers. This kind of software uses pointers to memory addresses that were assigned to I/O devices - a device driver reads in by reading from those addresses and that software writes out by writing to those addresses. So one needs to use pointers to memory locations rather than hiding them, which is what most high-level languages do.
steve_bank
Diabetic retinopathy and poor eyesight. Typos ...
C++ evolved because as software comlexity grew it became unmanageable.
Class objects have private functions and data invisible out outside the object. This eliminates side effects and corrupting of data by oterr code.
In OOP objects communicate with each other.
If you are writing code of a few thousand lines you may not see it. Get up to say 10k and more lines it becomes obvious why C++ came about. More so in a large projects with multiple coders. Hundreds of thousands of lines of code. Maintenance, debugging, and system integration.
OOP is a different way of thinking that structured programming.
In the 80s there were unmintainable systems without the original coder. Companies were helfd hostage. At my first company when a software engineer left it required a compete rewrite.
C++ was not just a cool idea somebody had, it addressed problems with C.
Strostrup's original books are in PDFs.
I only had use of encapsulation, IOW class objects. One definition of OPP was the emeld of data and the methods that operate on the data.
Class objects have private functions and data invisible out outside the object. This eliminates side effects and corrupting of data by oterr code.
In OOP objects communicate with each other.
If you are writing code of a few thousand lines you may not see it. Get up to say 10k and more lines it becomes obvious why C++ came about. More so in a large projects with multiple coders. Hundreds of thousands of lines of code. Maintenance, debugging, and system integration.
OOP is a different way of thinking that structured programming.
In the 80s there were unmintainable systems without the original coder. Companies were helfd hostage. At my first company when a software engineer left it required a compete rewrite.
C++ was not just a cool idea somebody had, it addressed problems with C.
Strostrup's original books are in PDFs.
lpetrich
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There is also the issue of how such a devastating bug got through CrowdStrike's development processes.
At the very least they ought to have had some PeeCees with software like Ghost (disk utility) that makes it easy to revert to some known-good versions of the system software.
Gen Digital and Broadcom and Comparison of disk cloning software
At the very least they ought to have had some PeeCees with software like
Ghost (disk utility) that makes it easy to revert to some known-good versions of the system software.It's alive and well: GHOST® Solution Suite at Broadcom
Just what one will need for such testing.
Gen Digital and Broadcom and Comparison of disk cloning software
lpetrich
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QA Automation Tools Software - Review Leading Systems
QA = Quality Assurance
This is for doing automated testing of software.
QA = Quality Assurance
This is for doing automated testing of software.