21 women killed: this week in masculinism

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Here's an example of culture impacting policy impacting crime statistics:
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/50...ality-professional-excellence-domestic-abuse/

 

[ruby sparks]

Here's an example of culture impacting policy impacting crime statistics:
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/50...ality-professional-excellence-domestic-abuse/

An interesting read. Assuming it's generally accurate (the figure of 43.5% seems very high to say the least, though I'm not sure what it's 43.5% of) then it's possibly a good example of what you suggest. Not that I'm anything like an expert on Finland, Finns, or Finnish culture.

And by the way, even if the percentages for those affected by domestic abuse are much lower (other surveys suggest 6-11% of Finnish women have experienced it at least once) domestic violence, which is mostly by men on women, is awful, imo. Both sad and shocking.

The apparent/reported shortage of shelters in Finland for women is surprising, although a quick Google shows that only one country (Slovenia) out of 46 in Europe meets the recommendations of the Istanbul Convention for shelters per head of population, so Finland is not the exception. I read the recommendation/target is 1 family place per 10,000 head of (presumably female) population, so by that standard Finland should have 275, but actually has 179, as of 2018, which is/was about two-thirds of the recommendation. But it's increasing, apparently.

Oddly, Finland is at the same time very high on a number of other measures of gender equality & social quality.

ETA. I think the 43.5% either comes from or tallies with the results of this survey (below) although in this survey it's actually 47%:

https://fra.europa.eu/en/publicatio...y-data-explorer-violence-against-women-survey

Denmark being at the top of such a league table (highest percentage in Europe of self-reported cases of experiencing physical or sexual violence from a partner at least once after age 15 as opposed to not having experienced it) and Poland at the bottom, is not what I would have expected.

 

[ruby sparks]

I'm sure he knows better, but the allure of snarking about male violence is irresistable to some.

I blame the feminists. If they didn't tend to underplay nature so much, there'd be no need for anyone to counter them by going roughly as far in the opposite direction.

It's amazing that you could type such a statement and attempt to play it off as a joke.

Unless you actually agreed with it, a little bit.

As I've said before, including not long ago in this thread, I agree with both things, that some (including, often, Feminists) have underplayed biological explanations, compared to social/cultural ones, and others (trausti seems to be one typical example) overplay them. And I would not be surprised if some on both sides of the nature/nurture debate tend to do it, partly as a response to the other side, which is perceived as doing it the other way. So some on the Nurture side suspect the Nature side of either getting it wrong or worse, bias (or endorsing the Naturalistic Fallacy) and vice versa.

Here is a somewhat relevant 2012 paper by evolutionary psychologist and human sex-differences specialist, Anne Campbell:

The Study of Sex Differences: Feminism and Biology
https://www.researchgate.net/profil...3049/Feminism-and-Evolutionary-Psychology.pdf

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Here's an example of culture impacting policy impacting crime statistics:
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/50...ality-professional-excellence-domestic-abuse/

An interesting read. Assuming it's generally accurate (the figure of 43.5% seems very high to say the least, though I'm not sure what it's 43.5% of) then it's possibly a good example of what you suggest. Not that I'm anything like an expert on Finland, Finns, or Finnish culture.

It doesn't surprise me at all. If you don't actually punish domestic violence the abusers will simply get chucked out of their relationship and go on to abuse in another relationship. A high rate of women who have experienced abuse doesn't mean the number of abusers is any higher.