Amherst College Bans Fraternities

[Jimmy Higgins]

Yeah... that isn't true. It is a tired strawman you always bring up.

Well the new 2011 directive shows that they do not care at all for the rights of the falsely accused. Read again on the treatment of the falsely accused male student at University of North Dakota under this directive.

Where does it say in the directive that women have never lied about rape?

 

[Derec]

Where does it say in the directive that women have never lied about rape?

The directive is intended to make it easier to punish male students accuse of rape/sexual assault on campuses by lowering burden of proof to the lowest setting and stripping the accused of vital due process rights like the right to confront their accusers. That policy presupposes that any rape/sexual assault allegation is truthful so why bother with protecting the accused.

 

[laughing dog]

Getting away from one of many of Derec's raggedy hobby horse, Amherst is treating membership in fraternities etc... as a violation of the school honor code.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Getting away from one of many of Derec's raggedy hobby horse, Amherst is treating membership in fraternities etc... as a violation of the school honor code.

Which doesn't make it a valid thing for them to do. They could make wearing pink shirts a violation of the school's honour code, but it wouldn't mean that students who wear one are violating anything which should legitimately be included in an honour code.

 

[RavenSky]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/06/amherst-college-fraternities-ban_n_5275705.html

Amherst will prohibit student participation in fraternities and sororities and "fraternity-like and sorority-like organizations, either on or off campus," effective July 1, Cullen Murphy, Board of Trustees chair, told students in an email. The trustees also reaffirmed a 1984 decision barring formal college recognition of any Greek organizations.

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Amherst does not officially recognize fraternities, but has allowed them to organize underground so long as their activities stayed off the campus of the college, in Amherst, Massachusetts. The trustees' review of Greek life at Amherst, a top-ranked liberal arts college, followed a 2013 suggestion from the Sexual Misconduct Oversight Committee, composed of faculty, students, staff, administrators and trustees.

The committee was formed in response to an October 2012 student newspaper op-ed by Angie Epifano accusing the college of mishandling her sexual assault case, sending her to a psychiatric ward in response to her comments about being depressed. Epifano filed a federal complaint against the college in December 2013, sparking an investigation by the U.S. Department of Education into whether Amherst violated the Title IX gender equity law. In that complaint, Epifano lambasted the college for a sexually hostile climate she blamed on the underground fraternities.

Honestly, I think Amherst is trying to deflect blame from themselves for their disgusting treatment of Angie Epifano. It really is worth reading her op-ed where she describes the disgusting treatment she received. After one reads that op-ed, it's hard not to think that banning Greek life is just more of the same non-solutions and evasions and desperate attempts to protect the school's reputation.

I agree

I question whether or not it is wise for them to ban students who belong to these social clubs. It just seems to me that they would have more control over them if they allowed the clubs and established rules of behavior for them.

this is what I was thinking as I was reading to OP too. It also seems to me like they are punishing everyone for the behavior of one or two.

Getting away from one of many of Derec's raggedy hobby horse, Amherst is treating membership in fraternities etc... as a violation of the school honor code.

TY

 

[laughing dog]

Getting away from one of many of Derec's raggedy hobby horse, Amherst is treating membership in fraternities etc... as a violation of the school honor code.

Which doesn't make it a valid thing for them to do. They could make wearing pink shirts a violation of the school's honour code, but it wouldn't mean that students who wear one are violating anything which should legitimately be included in an honour code.

I see. Amherst must follow your standard for an honor code.

 

[Sabine Grant]

Staff Notice : please stay on the actual topic of the OP introduced by "Amherst will prohibit student participation in fraternities and sororities and "fraternity-like and sorority-like organizations, either on or off campus," instead of fueling hobby horsing on the topic of "women who claim rape can lie". Hobby horse riders are welcome to start their own thread while not disrupting someone else's thread. Thank you for everyone's anticipated cooperation.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Getting away from one of many of Derec's raggedy hobby horse, Amherst is treating membership in fraternities etc... as a violation of the school honor code.

Which doesn't make it a valid thing for them to do. They could make wearing pink shirts a violation of the school's honour code, but it wouldn't mean that students who wear one are violating anything which should legitimately be included in an honour code.

I see. Amherst must follow your standard for an honor code.

I see you're taking advantage of the new site's Random Response Generator. As you can see, it's still a little bit buggy.

 

[laughing dog]

Getting away from one of many of Derec's raggedy hobby horse, Amherst is treating membership in fraternities etc... as a violation of the school honor code.

Which doesn't make it a valid thing for them to do. They could make wearing pink shirts a violation of the school's honour code, but it wouldn't mean that students who wear one are violating anything which should legitimately be included in an honour code.

I see. Amherst must follow your standard for an honor code.

I see you're taking advantage of the new site's Random Response Generator. As you can see, it's still a little bit buggy.

I doubt that irony in your response was intentional.