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These were released by hackers working for the American government in order to influence the Russian political process. Their content can't be trusted.
 
Tom Sawyer said:
These were released by hackers working for the American government in order to influence the Russian political process. Their content can't be trusted.
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Actually these are ukrainian hackers and they are trying to influence in Ukraine, not in Russia.
 
barbos said:
Tom Sawyer said:
These were released by hackers working for the American government in order to influence the Russian political process. Their content can't be trusted.
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Actually these are ukrainian hackers and they are trying to influence in Ukraine, not in Russia.
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You have a really powerful motor on your garage door, don't you?
 
If Russia doesn't change its plans now that they have been exposed, next 6-12 months are going to be interesting. Grab your popcorn.
 
Jayjay said:
If Russia doesn't change its plans now that they have been exposed, next 6-12 months are going to be interesting. Grab your popcorn.
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Or they could just continue not giving a shit. It's not like there's information today that we didn't know yesterday.
 
Jayjay said:
If Russia doesn't change its plans now that they have been exposed, next 6-12 months are going to be interesting. Grab your popcorn.
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You imply that these are some non trivial plans, when in reality these "plans" are so unspecific and looks like something you would hear on Ukrainian TV, so much so that I suspect that it's an ordinary fabrication.
 
Tom Sawyer said:
These were released by hackers working for the American government in order to influence the Russian political process. Their content can't be trusted.
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That's funny! The deal here is that Russia wants to have an economic sphere of influence that they can control for their benefit. However, rather than seek trading partners by offering them mutually benefical trading relationships, they bully and harass. They treat their neighbors like shit, and then are surprised when their neighbors turn towards the distant west.
 
barbos said:
Jayjay said:
If Russia doesn't change its plans now that they have been exposed, next 6-12 months are going to be interesting. Grab your popcorn.
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You imply that these are some non trivial plans, when in reality these "plans" are so unspecific and looks like something you would hear on Ukrainian TV, so much so that I suspect that it's an ordinary fabrication.
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Usually, truth is boring. If you look back to the leaked plans Russia had for taking over Crimea and starting the rebellion in Eastern Ukraine, those were pretty unspecific too. That's because the real world is not a tv show where the villanous mastermind can plan every detail in advance.
 
Jayjay said:
barbos said:
You imply that these are some non trivial plans, when in reality these "plans" are so unspecific and looks like something you would hear on Ukrainian TV, so much so that I suspect that it's an ordinary fabrication.
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Usually, truth is boring. If you look back to the leaked plans Russia had for taking over Crimea and starting the rebellion in Eastern Ukraine, those were pretty unspecific too. That's because the real world is not a tv show where the villanous mastermind can plan every detail in advance.
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Is Russia meddling in Ukraine? of course they do. Nobody is going to deny it. But US, Poland and EU in general are meddling there as well.
You seem to forgot about Victoria Nuland tape. It does not look nice but considering how hostile and dysfunctional the current Ukrainian regime is I can't blame russians. And it seems ukrainians are getting sick of Poroshenko, this is what his own member of parlaments are saying, people really thinking "Yanukovich was not that bad, certainly better than what we have now"
 
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