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Are you a moral person?

Dictatorial capitalism is the system in Denmark.

It is not close to Anarchism.
 
Houston. We have a problem. Somewhere between dictatorial capitalism and anarchism there resides democratic socialism. Either you don't have concepts in hand or wyou don't want to have them in hand. In both instances you are an illustration of Trump traits. So, for now, you are just going to be called a Trumpist.
 
The power to the people social anacrasidts never deem to have a grasp of history.

The founders rejected direct democracy for POTU and federal lawmaking S because it would lead to anarchy and chaos. The question then was given humans as they are how best to limit the power of a chief executive. Representative govt in the states works well. Elected and appointed officials can and are removed through recall by the people. Many sta5tes have referndums that can place an issue on the ballot outside of legislatures.

It has broken down on the federal level for many reasons.

The anarchists think no structure will be the most just and fair, but you still have the same old human beings who are fallible. You need decision making even for anarchists, that leads to divisions and politics, and power plays. Eventually it would come full circle. It is inevitable on a large scale.
 
Socialism is where the government owns the means of production.

It has no relation to dictatorial capitalism or democratic Anarchism.
 
untermensche said:
Socialism is where the government owns the means of production.

It has no relation to dictatorial capitalism or democratic Anarchism.
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Real world socialism is a mix of free markets and govt control of economies. China evolved from communism to socialism.
 
China is a totalitarian dictatorship.

And it has a capitalist economy.

There is no conflict because capitalism as it exists is set around the dictatorial model.
 
untermensche said:
China is a totalitarian dictatorship.

And it has a capitalist economy.

There is no conflict because capitalism as it exists is set around the dictatorial model.
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It is nit a dictatorship. It is authorterian. The chief executive is answerable to the central commitee and does not have absolute power.
 
steve_bank said:
untermensche said:
China is a totalitarian dictatorship.

And it has a capitalist economy.

There is no conflict because capitalism as it exists is set around the dictatorial model.
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It is nit a dictatorship. It is authorterian. The chief executive is answerable to the central commitee and does not have absolute power.
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Who does the "central committee" take orders from?

A dictatorship is a structure of power where all real power, the power to actually do something, is in the hands of an individual or small group.

The modern corporation is as rigid a dictatorship as humans have ever devised.

They are immoral power structures.

Besides being incredibly destructive.
 
fromderinside said:
Central committee takes orders by putting finger in the air in their communities checking on how political winds are blowing there.
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That is not taking orders.

Taking orders means you either leave somehow or comply.

If you can chose what you will listen to and what you will not you are not taking orders.
 
Dictatorial power structures are what exists in the world. All around us.

And these dictators are destroying many things.
 
untermensche said:
Dictatorial power structures are what exists in the world. All around us.

And these dictators are destroying many things.
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You remind me of the feminist Andrea Dworkin who famously claimed that because the penis penetrates the vagina during sex, all sex is by definition rape. A lot of people found her argument hard to follow. A bit like I'm finding your arguments hard to follow
 
What off the wall shit comes to your mind has nothing to do with me.

You have no more arguments in favor of dictatorship I see.

You now have switched to pretending they are not all around us.

Have you ever seen the power structure of a corporation?

You are behaving as if you were born yesterday.

"Dictatorial power structure in a corporation? Wow, that is news to me."
 
untermensche said:
What off the wall shit comes to your mind has nothing to do with me.

You have no more arguments in favor of dictatorship I see.

You now have switched to pretending they are not all around us.

Have you ever seen the power structure of a corporation?

You are behaving as if you were born yesterday.

"Dictatorial power structure in a corporation? Wow, that is news to me."
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I don't support dictatorship. I have never said I do. What I have said is that you call a lot of things dictatorships when they aren't.

Any corporation is a bitch to the whims of the market. I see no dictatorship there.
 
untermensche said:
fromderinside said:
Central committee takes orders by putting finger in the air in their communities checking on how political winds are blowing there.
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That is not taking orders.

Taking orders means you either leave somehow or comply.

If you can chose what you will listen to and what you will not you are not taking orders.
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NSRR*. That's exactly my point. It's not a dictatorship.

*no shit red ryder
 
DrZoidberg said:
untermensche said:
What off the wall shit comes to your mind has nothing to do with me.

You have no more arguments in favor of dictatorship I see.

You now have switched to pretending they are not all around us.

Have you ever seen the power structure of a corporation?

You are behaving as if you were born yesterday.

"Dictatorial power structure in a corporation? Wow, that is news to me."
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I don't support dictatorship. I have never said I do. What I have said is that you call a lot of things dictatorships when they aren't.

Any corporation is a bitch to the whims of the market. I see no dictatorship there.
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Your blindness is not an argument.

A dictatorship is a power structure.

And yes one dictatorship could potentially be competing with another.

That makes two dictatorships competing. Like the monarchy in Spain competed with the monarchy in England.

Pretending the world is not what it is is a game for children.

We have sick dictatorships all around us and they are not only immoral they are highly destructive. They are destroying the planet.
 
At the bottom as I understand it there are local elections like for mayor. As you move higher up it becomes more selective.

At the top you are invited to join what is loosely the central committee. The presudent comes out if that. From what I read prefernce is given to those who trace to Mao's recvolutiionaries.The one thing the Chinese leadership is terrified of is a counter revolution and a replay of the Cultrural Revolution. The top leadership is responsive to the people in a general way. They know they have to raise living standards.At the top a series of 5 year plans are developed for national development and they are very good at executing to plan. They perform better than our politics ridden federal govt. The Chinese are very pragmatic.

The Chinese leadership is probaly more ethical and moral regading their country than we are. You won't see them shitting on each other or degrading their own people.

The Nazis were a dictatorship. uyba was a dictatorship under Fidel.
 
steve_bank said:
At the bottom as I understand it there are local elections like for mayor. As you move higher up it becomes more selective.

At the top you are invited to join what is loosely the central committee. The presudent comes out if that. From what I read prefernce is given to those who trace to Mao's recvolutiionaries.The one thing the Chinese leadership is terrified of is a counter revolution and a replay of the Cultrural Revolution. The top leadership is responsive to the people in a general way. They know they have to raise living standards.At the top a series of 5 year plans are developed for national development and they are very good at executing to plan. They perform better than our politics ridden federal govt. The Chinese are very pragmatic.

The Chinese leadership is probaly more ethical and moral regading their country than we are. You won't see them shitting on each other or degrading their own people.

The Nazis were a dictatorship. uyba was a dictatorship under Fidel.
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Who ordered the tanks into Tiananmen Square?

That's how ethical the leaders of China are.

They executed the leaders of people asking for a little freedom.

The cream of their people.
 
untermensche said:
steve_bank said:
At the bottom as I understand it there are local elections like for mayor. As you move higher up it becomes more selective.

At the top you are invited to join what is loosely the central committee. The presudent comes out if that. From what I read prefernce is given to those who trace to Mao's recvolutiionaries.The one thing the Chinese leadership is terrified of is a counter revolution and a replay of the Cultrural Revolution. The top leadership is responsive to the people in a general way. They know they have to raise living standards.At the top a series of 5 year plans are developed for national development and they are very good at executing to plan. They perform better than our politics ridden federal govt. The Chinese are very pragmatic.

The Chinese leadership is probaly more ethical and moral regading their country than we are. You won't see them shitting on each other or degrading their own people.

The Nazis were a dictatorship. uyba was a dictatorship under Fidel.
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Who ordered the tanks into Tiananmen Square?

That's how ethical the leaders of China are.

They executed the leaders of people asking for a little freedom.

The cream of their people.
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Who ordered the National Guard onto the Kent State campus who shot students?
 
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